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Being considered strongly in Tennessee... And other areas now.
Someone please phucking pinch me, I'm living in a dream
From the blog The Lookout: In 2007, a school district in Harrold, Texas, made a controversial decision. It allowed teachers to carry concealed weapons on school grounds to protect students against potential shooters. [Related: Scenes from Newtown, Connecticut] Now, in the wake of the Sandy Hook Elementary attack in Newtown, Conn., that left 28 dead including 20 children and the [...]
This post was edited by FsuFanForever 19 months ago
Excellent. Allowing for those that are qualified and desire to do so is fantastic so far as I am concerned. Can't be any worse than the tested and failed "gun-free zone" policies that are currently providing helpless, target rich environments nationwide.
If I have to carry a gun, I want a $20,000 pay raise.
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Pony up more taxes Levy.
Other than that, I'm not so sure the plane doesn't have merit. I just wonder how it plays out.
It'll be interesting.
This post was edited by atgreek 19 months ago
And therein lies the problem.
I'm with Levy in that I really would rather be armed than unarmed when faced with a looney of epic proportions that is armed.
This is not Utopia in which we reside. Eve if outgunned, with a 9 mm in hand I have a shot.
From the blog The Lookout: The talk of new gun control measures that has followed Friday's mass shooting in a Newtown, Conn., elementary school has gun buyers rushing to the nearest store and picking up new weapons, according to gun store owners and state police background check information. On Saturday, Virginia state police fielded 4,166 requests for background checks, a [...]
Interesting to note that Virginia residents had to live through Virginia Tech and the Malvo sniper whose victims were as random as they get.
I think the populace has had enough.
If you armed every teacher in this country, on the first day, you'd have quadruple digit deaths across the US... among students
The majority of human beings are not stable enough for this responsibility, to make it work. I look at the people that I encounter day-to-day, these people are emotional wrecks of instability... and for every 5 million meltdowns that happen in the US daily without a gun, adding one to the equation would only make things worse.
We can pretend like we are intelligent and evolved... and would never have these problems... but I've seen some of the smartest people on this board in full meltdown mode... and that's when I remember... we're nothing more than 1-step further away from the tree.
Our prisons aren't just filled with crazy/evil people who did nothing with their lives. There is a scary number of people sitting in there because they were put in a bad situation, had a gun available, and responded logically. When someone is messing with your kids, how rational is your response generally?
Mind you the VAST majority of the people you are going to find in an online forum (like Noles247) are going to INTP/INTJ personality types, genetically engineered to be calm/rational thinkers.... We can't take this subset of people and extrapolate... It's such a insignificant and small subset of the actual world (2%?)...try to think of the other 98%
They'll discuss it maybe, even one or two will come up with hair-brained statements repeatedly quotable by the lamestream media as Neanderthal in scope. But it won't pass. All the conversation will do is give Democrats to point the finger and say see, Republicans just want to kill us, and should never be allowed to exist in the same cities as us enlightened talkers do.
FSUFan, your 2% subset exists in every society in every country in the world.
Take ALL the guns away, and execute anybody that commits a crime using one after that. Only way to completely stop it. That will never happen, because the trauma of imbalance of societal reward of effort - or lack thereof will not allow for it. "He couldn't achieve due to prejudice dontchaknow."
This post was edited by Nashnole 19 months ago
But his point is valid.
There would be problems and deaths without a doubt.
Nash, I'm apalled you of all people assume this is a democrat/republican issue.
And the debate is regarding assault rifles with massive magazines.
Got one of those?
I'm just saying...
2% = when they make a decision, they consider the worst possible outcomes, weigh the risks, and allow it to guide them... they aren't going to follow their GPS into a crack den, if it's the shortest route... they aren't going to stop at a gas station and fill up, where the wall outside has become the local hangout.
in otherwords, they are actively thinking about AVOIDING stimuli that would cause negative or unpredictable outcomes.
98% = when they make a decision, they consider the best possible outcomes and allow it to guide them. POSITIVE THINKING AND OPTIMISM MAKE ANYTHING POSSIBLE!
in otherwords, they are actively thinking about PUPPY DOGS, CANDY CANES, AND HUGS... and they think the 2% is CRAZY and pessimistic.
Right. I really don't understand what the big deal is about having some requirements for the ownership of that subset of firearm.
EVERYTHING IS OR BECOMES A POLITICAL ISSUE. Watch where the bills to confiscate all guns will come from. I don't want assault rifles in the hands of private citizens either. But it will NOT stop there and you know it.
It's the start of a slippery slope. Outlaw AR-15 type guns, then the next shooting is by a guy using a pump shotgun, then we outlaw those, and so on and so on.
"Don't mistake lack of talent for genius." Type O Negative
This post was edited by 303nole 19 months ago
I know plenty of people who own high powered weapons just to shoot them for fun. It's never been the guns that kill people.
Well then, everything is a slippery slope.
Taxes, medicine, defense budget, car regulations, everything has been fought for in our entirety.
You can't tell me this is the issue we all cave in to the slippery slope.
You just can't. The NRA has fought this forever. They can and would fight any further attempts.
There has to be some give, otherwise the current of public opinion will not distinguish between weapons.
Being an advertising guy, you know this.
I agree 100%.
Will not top the regulation from happening.
You willing to risk all or nothing?
No. There doesn't. Public opinion be damned. Executive Order can and will obviate any issue the public - a mostly uninformed or misinformed entity cares to scrutinize. Too, while legislation may be harder to come by, and this will certainly not happen perhaps even in my lifetime. Make no mistake, it eventually will.
Politics in NOT anchored the real world - especially the business segment of it. As an intelligent man and an Athlete, I know you understand this.
So you think we can operate as an oligarchy?
Executive order will NOT. Withstand the force of time.
90% of females are in favor of the ban. That is almost half the electorate. Watch Newtown images fly next election when NRA supported candidates run.
You and I agree but we seem to disagree on what will happen.
Politics are guided by the invisible hand of "desire for money/power"....with a little dog and pony show, to keep people distracted.
Sure the dog and pony show may appear to be illogical and counter-intuitive at times, but in reality, when you are pulling the greatest magic trick of all times, you've got to throw in some BS to distract people from the prestige (money/power shifts)
The only way meaningful legislation comes down, which changes this issue = someones financial interest outweighs someone elses.... So I ask, whose financial interest in banning outweighs the guns/amunition interest in keeping them not-banned?
Dog-and-pony legislation incoming. It's a myth the liberals/democrats are shaping anything... being vocal and having power are two very different things...as the great Cuthbert has reminded me so many times
When the government turns in all of theirs and assigns me a protection detail then I may begin to consider handing over any I may or may not have.
Honestly we are a stupid society and will have earned all that is to come. We have a sitting prez that wipes his azz w/ the constitution, has stated his desire for a national police force bigger and better funded than the military, has expanded government in ways never before thought possible, made threats against segments of the country, has a cozy relationship w/ the muslim bros, thumbs his nose at congress and the private sector, and above all (and this is not a complete list regarding this vile heathen) he and the racist incompetent eric holder created a program called fast n furious to give substance to their anti 2nd A narrative. That little deal has led to over 300 dead mexican citizens and untold suffering along w/ the death of at least 2 fed agents. Not to mention violating all kinds of American, Mexican, and International laws. But the community organizer continues "forward" w/ his agenda, unabated.
This deal w/ the school is nothing more than a photo op and a chance to get done what he may not otherwise. He and his wife (esp her) are devout racists who despise whites and esp rich whites from Norman Rockwell towns like New Town CT. He cares nothing more for these kids and teachers than he does the military dead that he appeared for on the tarmac @ O-dark-thirty for some PR pics. And y'all expect us to give up our last means of protection against this thing and his mission? Tell ya what, poop in one hand, wish in the other, and let's see which fills up quicker.
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