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Bohner at odds with top Republicans.
Maybe we're turning a corner some where.
Those two lines seems like progress to me.
From Yahoo! News: President Barack Obama's offer to slow the growth of Social Security benefits would force fellow Democrats in Congress to abandon promises to shield the massive retirement and disability program from cuts as part of negotiations to avoid the year-end fiscal cliff.
So SLOWING GROWTH of an entitlement is CUTTING it. Ah the fine use of semantics raises it's stinky butt out of the mouths of our "leaders". Democrats are after a zero sum game. Tax now and cut later - if and when and what we want to - or not.
Nancy Pelosi - a liar if there ever was - several years ago propounded a plan to increase the taxes of those whose adjusted gross income exceeded $1 million. NOW, just a couple of days ago, she and her lick-spitles say that was just a ploy, a lie, a feint withing a feint to get what they wanted out of a negotiation with Republicans to leave them holding the bag by coming half-way, only to find the Democrats were frozen against their cushions. They will never countenance it NOW, as they won the election dontchaknow, and to the victors go the spoils dontchaknow.
So now Social Security is an entitlement?
Yes. I'm entitled to the money I paid in BACK.
Yes it is. And I won't. The biggest and largest and most underfunded entitlement extant. Masquerades under the nomenclature of "Social Safety Net". Bullsheet. And you probably won't get it back for the most part. They'll find a way to truncate it eventually. What happens when it is no longer able to be funded?
Sure, I want mine back too. But it's still an entitlement. How else do you describe a program where those that paid in NOTHING can draw from it the same as those that DID pay into it?!
It's a start.
All I want to see is a serious cut to the $147,000/year that congressmen and women receive when they are no longer in office. That sum is so offensive it isn't funny. (1) They haven't earned it; (2) you don't get to Congress without being wealthy in the first place. Two sad facts that are at the root of the problem with our Federal legislature, IMO.
I've always argued that we'd be better off picking congress randomly from a lottery of upstanding citizens.
Anyone who seeks power is the last person who needs to have it bestowed on them.
Free health insurance too, NOT Obamcare either. That's just for ..............................
Hear, hear laddie! Or, NO PAY, or just $3,000.00/MONTH MAX! Very limited expenses only. Your are here to serve or you are NOT here. If you try to vote yourself an increase, you get 100 licks on your bare ass, in public, in front of the Washington Monument with TV cameras arollin'! Uncle Nash will volunteer to administer the punishment for free.
Their salaries has very little relevance to them... you could pay them nothing and we'd get the same rich people in office.
Power is where the money is.... quid-pro-quo opportunities... % of them taking place while they are actually in office... another % comes afterwards... where they live out the rest of their lives in luxury... on many corporate boards... getting paid to toot each other's whistles.
Ok. We have a discussion going.
Cut out the SS disabilit and if you haven't paid, you don't qualify.
It isn't underfunded, it has been continually raided.
FSUFF. Great idea. And those bastards shouldn't be flying first class everywhere on acct of government business.
And no campaign funds should be allowed to be kept free of taxes.
You don't get to administer jack, I'm doing it.
Well, I'm a Southpaw, so I'll come in from the starboard and blast that cheek. If you're a Righty, then you weigh in from the port direction - same, same. Double down for effect is what I'm talkin' about! We'll hit Pelosi so hard she'll cough out her false teeth and her botox will explode. Reid will have his glasses fly off, and a stray mongrel dog will get 'em and run away.
Laura can keep count, as we'll both need to reserve our energy so's to raise blisters!
Or pay based on wealth. If you're independently wealthy, you don't get a salary but are welcome to devote yourself to public service. If you require an income to support your family while serving, you receive compensation.
And no investments should be allowed to be made while in office.
Maybe it's me but if your elected to congressman, senator n such but you shouldn't get paid...it's a privilege and you should feel lucky
In a way, I agree. However, that would only perpetuate the current problem of having the already privileged being in office. As of now, you can't get elected if you don't spend a bajillion bucks on your campaign. I believe that "regular" people should be able to be in office as well and if they can overcome the campaign hurdles to get there, do we want their families to go without food because they are "lucky to be there?" I make decent money, but if I got elected and had to leave my job, my family would end up homeless.
I understand I should have been more clear I was going under the pretenses that they have money and really don't need to be paid while in office
2 term limit on ALL elected positions, no retirement, enhanced criminal penalties for those in charge caught breaking the law, no exemptions from legislation passed (examples being you get obamacare like the rest of us, no armed bodyguards whilst you rail about guns, etc). For starters.
It is not a means tested entitlement but it is an entitlement. Most people get what they pay in even with dollars adjusted for inflation within 5 years of getting on social security. So most get back what they put in and a lot more.
However, at its inception it was never supposed to be anything more than another tax. How do I know? The average aGe of death at inception was 57 but you cannot collect until 62. Hmm.......
There were also 16 workers for every person on social security at the time of inception. Now it is 2 to 1.
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the age will have to go up by 5 years for it to survive.
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