Off The Reservation

As a football fanatic posting on a tackle football site? I would think not. I would offer that perhaps a few of us are crooked white males, but that's beside the point.

I wasn't referring to race and political affiliation.

I was trying to gauge the demo of the thread. Pretty obv.

My understanding of the causes to which the foundation donated is that they are religious organizations focused on many facets of society, part of which is education and spreading the message of the biblical family. In my mind, being pro- something doesn't always make you anti- something else. Can anyone point me to some research that shows that the organizations donated to actually did something anti-gay as opposed to pro-biblical family?

From Snopes:
"Through the WinShape Foundation, started by company founders Truett and Jeannette Cathy, Chick-fil-A donates to several Christian organizations, including The Marriage & Family Legacy Fund, The Fellowship of Christian
Athletes and the National Christian Foundation. According to its statement, Chick-fil-A has given the groups $1,714,199. None of the organizations the company supports has an "anti-gay" agenda, although as Christian groups, they do uphold and support heterosexual marriage, Donald A. Perry, the company's vice president of corporate public relations, said in his statement."

He has every right to say what he believes. I have every right not to spend my money there because he monetarily supports things that I don't believe in.

There's no "right" to marriage. There's not even a Constitutional avenue for the Federal Government to get involved. Find "marriage" in the Constitution. These laws are up to the States, should your state care to pass a law at all (as are all laws not specifically addressed in the Constitution). BTW, your rights are contained in the "Bill of Rights" which are the first ten ammendments to the Constitution.

Nothing stops anyone from entering a contract with another person, putting them into your "living will" as well as your will, holding a ceremony of your choice and exchanging rings. Not ONE THING.

Why do "we" need the Gov't to do this for us? Less is more, I say. The less they meddle in our lives, the better.

The man is a professed Christian, his entire chain is closed on Sundays....and he expressed his opinion.
That is his right as an american.

The backlash is completely ridiculous.
If you want to be gay..good for you.
If Mass or Cali wants to allow gay marriage--good for them.
I am OVER the gay backlash on anyone who expresses an opinion they dont agree with.
Tough crackers.
There are people on here with opinions different than mine on the same team we root for.
Get over it!

Oh, come on. It isn't that easy. Gov't issues marriage licenses. By paying my $75 bucks or whatever and getting a license, my husband automatically has a plethora of rights related directly to me. How many straight people have their wills, living wills, assets, etc. in order? I sure don't. I don't have to. By default, he would get everything.

How about private agreements already in place, like country club documents, for example? You have a membership, your "spouse" has the right to use benefits of the membership. You can't separately contract around that and if the club isn't progressive enough to allow for partners/significant others, you/your spouse is alienated from membership. I acknowledge that perhaps that is the point with some private clubs, but it was the only example I could think of.

I've seen more information about the organizations to which CFA is contributing, and I'm not happy about it. I hate the idea of giving up those nuggets and waffle fries, but I don't want a penny of mine anywhere near Focus on the Family.

I understand your point, Laura. There may be a little extra work involved, granted. Either way, it's not a Federal issue. I promise, we don't want to make "marriage" a Federal issue.

I lived in the south for 13 years, and monoculture is really what drove me away. Don't get me wrong, I plan on retiring to the south, and I visit as often as possible; however, there's some serious lack of perspective in some pockets.

Anecdotes:
I have a good Muslim friend who was working in the WTC building 4 hours before in fell. He lost friends that day, and a majority of his life. He still hasn't gotten a job that he enjoyed as much as what he had when he was a captain at Windows. He hates terrorists more than anyone on this board, sans perhaps the (wonderful) men on the front lines that are fighting for us.

We may be the first country to legalize gay marriage in America, but there's tons of history from Rome, Greece, Sparta, etc that includes homosexuality. It's all available online should you desire to do the research. I know this because my gay friends in NY are always quick to point out the side of the story that's less frequently heard in mainstream media.

Personally, I'd rather see people allowed to do as they wish, but I don't think the CFA situation is unique or even noteworthy. I've known plenty of businessmen who channel work funds to prostitution, drugs, etc. You often hear of terrorist orgs having funds channeled to them. That seems far more noteworthy than some CEO with anti-gay prefs.

At the end of the day, I'm going to buy what I like (definitely CFA) and let everyone else sort out how my money should be re-spent.

By the way, I'm writing this from my hotel room in Milan, and my God are the women here amazing. I've never seen shorter skirts... Sorry, got distracted.

Companies are allowed to donate money

You are not giving him money. He is providing a product that you can choose to buy or not. To imply he is using your money is the heart of the problem. It is his money. I will not support companies that support things I don't believe.