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Who do we finish with?

  • Realistically, how many spots do we have left, and who do we finish with? Do we keep all the commits we have right now or does someone look elsewhere? Thoughts?

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    mpknole

  • I'm sure if we decide we like someone better than a player we already have, someone we have committed will "open things up"

    fsufelip

  • what i would like/hope to see

    RB - Collins
    WR - Coley
    OL - Tunsil
    OL - Kirkland
    DE - Smith (juco)
    DE - Reynolds/Hair/Bellamy
    DE - Williams (louisiana)
    DT - Senat
    DT - Bryant/Brantley
    LB - Thomas
    **Would like to see us lose Johnson like we did Shelton. Also not sure about Baker, but at least he has the measurables.
    DB - Alexander bros (because we need 1 to get both)
    DB - LMIII
    DB - Robinson if we get rid of Baker and Johnson

    lose Johnson and Baker and that takes us down to 14. add these 14 and that puts us at 28. this is obviously best case stuff. could see us only taking one more olineman, only 1 dt and missing out on all of those dbs. this season will dictate how we finish this class. great season = great class. another 4 losses or more and we'll wind up with a mid-teen class ranking.

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  • I think we have, at most, 10 spots left.

    I believe as of today we are expected to be at a full 85 this fall. We lose 18 seniors by my count. We could lose 3 guys early to the NFL (Rhodes, Werner, Jones) but probably not more. There are 4 lesser contributors I see that will have been here 4 years that we could ask to graduate and move on after the season. And there are always a couple guys that flunk out, kicked out or transfer on their own (let's say 2). So that gives us 27 total spots for this class (18 seniors + 3 NFL + 4 graduates + 2 attrition = 27).

    We have 16 commitments right now, maybe 17 if Mackenro is accepted (which I believe it will). We still have Aguayo greyshirting. That gets us to the "10 at most" figure I started with.

    I personally think we need an OT, S, CB, 2 DE and a DT. That'd be room for Tunsil, McQuay, "'Sie" Alexander, Senat and 2 of Reynolds/Bellamy/Smith/other. I don't think we land Tunsil and doubt we take another OL unless it's either Kirkland (if the coaches think he can be an OT) or a really good juco OT that still has 3 years of eligibility left. I think we'd take a guy like Thomas and risk losing one of our current LB commits or sacrificing a 3rd DE.

    So I'll say we finish with something like:
    2 Alexanders
    Senat
    McQuay
    Thomas
    2-3 DE
    maybe Collins

    Keep in mind if we take a guy from Penn State next year we'd have to be at 84 total players? That could effect the numbers in the 2013 class, too.

    PS - I would love to land both Robinson and Alexander at CB even if it meant sacrificing Baker and I actually like Johnson at safety. Not many people better than him that we had a shot at.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by tricknole on 7/30/2012 at 10:59 PM

    tricknole

  • Alex Collins
    Stacey Coley
    Denver Kirkland
    Za'Darius Smith
    Tim Williams (I hope)
    D'Angelo Reynolds
    Alexander bros

    FSUNole1 ●

  • I like Gasou's class.

    fishbrain ●

  • fishbrain said...

    I like Gasou's class.

    Except I think there's basically no chance we take 28.

    tricknole

  • tricknole said...

    Except I think there's basically no chance we take 28.

    Nor do I, but lose the 2nd DT and Robinson and we're good at 26.

    fishbrain ●

  • gasou said...

    what i would like/hope to see

    RB - Collins WR - Coley OL - Tunsil OL - Kirkland DE - Smith (juco) DE - Reynolds/Hair/Bellamy DE - Williams (louisiana) DT - Senat DT - Bryant/Brantley LB - Thomas **Would like to see us lose Johnson like we did Shelton. Also not sure about Baker, but at least he has the measurables. DB - Alexander bros (because we need 1 to get both) DB - LMIII DB - Robinson if we get rid of Baker and Johnson

    lose Johnson and Baker and that takes us down to 14. add these 14 and that puts us at 28. this is obviously best case stuff. could see us only taking one more olineman, only 1 dt and missing out on all of those dbs. this season will dictate how we finish this class. great season = great class. another 4 losses or more and we'll wind up with a mid-teen class ranking.

    Great class except you are setting up to be disappointed. From what I hear we are long shots for Robinson, Williams,LMIII,Kirkland, Bryant , Brantley and who knows about Tunsil.

    fsumd

  • fsumd said...

    Great class except you are setting up to be disappointed. From what I hear we are long shots for Robinson, Williams,LMIII,Kirkland, Bryant , Brantley and who knows about Tunsil.

    yeah...that's basically dream scenario...if we go undefeated or something.

    andy88c

  • At most 10 spots left? Here's my semi-realistic wish list.

    RB Alex Collins
    WR Stacy Coley
    DE Za'darius Smith
    DE DeAngelo Reynolds
    DE Kendrick Hair OR Davin Bellamy
    DT Deadrin Senat
    LB Matt Thomas
    DB/LB Mackenro Alexander
    DB Mackensie Alexander
    DB Leon McQuay

    EDIT: Yeah, I'd pretty much poop my pants if we closed with most of this.

    This post was edited by EnterTheOcho on 7/31/2012 at 6:57 AM

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  • EnterTheOcho said...

    At most 10 spots left? Here's my semi-realistic wish list.

    RB Alex Collins WR Stacy Coley DE Za'darius Smith DE DeAngelo Reynolds DE Kendrick Hair OR Davin Bellamy DT Deadrin Senat LB Matt Thomas DB/LB Mackenro Alexander DB Mackensie Alexander DB Leon McQuay

    EDIT: Yeah, I'd pretty much poop my pants if we closed with most of this.

    Yea that seems reasonable - I think we need one DT though... I also think LMIII is a long shot.

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  • EnterTheOcho said...

    At most 10 spots left? Here's my semi-realistic wish list.

    RB Alex Collins
    WR Stacy Coley
    DE Za'darius Smith
    DE DeAngelo Reynolds
    DE Kendrick Hair OR Davin Bellamy
    DT Deadrin Senat
    LB Matt Thomas
    DB/LB Mackenro Alexander
    DB Mackensie Alexander
    DB Leon McQuay

    EDIT: Yeah, I'd pretty much poop my pants if we closed with most of this.

    I think we end with this class +/- mcquay and a DT

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  • To the guy who said if we take a PSU player we would have to be at 84 next year, thats not entirely true.

    If you take a PSU player, you can go above 85, but in the following year, you have to go under 85 by as many as you go above (except USCw who cant go over 75 period). If we only get to 85 with a PSU player, we dont lose anything in future years.

    SaturdaysAtDoak

  • SaturdaysAtDoak said...

    To the guy who said if we take a PSU player we would have to be at 84 next year, thats not entirely true.

    If you take a PSU player, you can go above 85, but in the following year, you have to go under 85 by as many as you go above (except USCw who cant go over 75 period). If we only get to 85 with a PSU player, we dont lose anything in future years.

    Right. I was referring to going over 85 by taking a Penn State kid since I believe we are already at 85 right now. My count could be off.

    This post was edited by tricknole on 7/31/2012 at 11:03 AM

    tricknole

  • tricknole said...

    Right. I was referring to going over 85 by taking a Penn State kid since I believe we are already at 85 right now. My count could be off.

    Jimbo said at ACC Media days that we are 1 under.

    SaturdaysAtDoak

  • PSU transfer don't count unless you are under probation (UNC, USC, UCF, UM, etc.)

    My finish as of today...

    18. Mackenzie Alexander (CB)
    19. Deadrin Senat (DT)
    20. Za'Darius Smith (DE)
    21. Levonte Whitfield (WR)
    22. Stacey Coley (WR)
    23. Davin Bellamy (DE)
    24. OT
    25. Best avail. (Thomas, Collins, LMQ3)
    26. Best avail.

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  • crozea55 said...

    PSU transfer don't count unless you are under probation (UNC, USC, UCF, UM, etc.)

    My finish as of today...

    18. Mackenzie Alexander (CB) 19. Deadrin Senat (DT) 20. Za'Darius Smith (DE) 21. Levonte Whitfield (WR) 22. Stacey Coley (WR) 23. Davin Bellamy (DE) 24. OT 25. Best avail. (Thomas, Collins, LMQ3) 26. Best avail.

    agree

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  • crozea55 said...

    PSU transfer don't count unless you are under probation (UNC, USC, UCF, UM, etc.)

    I think they do count. You can go over the 85 limit this year but next year you have to be under the 85 limit by that same amount. That's my understanding of what was reported.

    This post was edited by tricknole on 7/31/2012 at 4:50 PM

    tricknole

  • fsumd said...

    Great class except you are setting up to be disappointed. From what I hear we are long shots for Robinson, Williams,LMIII,Kirkland, Bryant , Brantley and who knows about Tunsil.

    where are you hearing we are long shots for LM3 and Robinson?

    cuznchips28 ●

  • crozea55 said...

    PSU transfer don't count unless you are under probation (UNC, USC, UCF, UM, etc.)

    My finish as of today...

    18. Mackenzie Alexander (CB)
    19. Deadrin Senat (DT)
    20. Za'Darius Smith (DE)
    21. Levonte Whitfield (WR)
    22. Stacey Coley (WR)
    23. Davin Bellamy (DE)
    24. OT
    25. Best avail. (Thomas, Collins, LMQ3)
    26. Best avail.

    take out Whitfield and Collins and add Robinson

    cuznchips28 ●

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