Unconquered

Pretty much dead on, I wasn't really sure what Bobby would say about it but I'm glad he didn't defend Paterno.

I seriously doubt Bobby will ever have contact with Paterno again, unless they are thrown into the same room at the same time.

I think the most he'll say to him at this point is "How you doing, Joe?" For him to say that Paterno was negligent publicly speaks volumes. We all know that Bobby rarely says something negative about anyone. What he said in that interview is pretty damning of Paterno, Sandusky, and Penn State.

JoePa doesn't have the right to determine what allegations should and shouldn't be reported. If a child is allegedly abused, the police has to be notified, end of story.

You're seriously trying to say Paterno couldnt call the police because you say it was hearsay? Seriously? Paterno knew, employed and coached McQueary for 10+ years, I would think his word would be consider more than hearsay. I could go on about your ignorance but it would be a waste of time.

So when Sandusky admitted in 98 that he showered with boys, the incident occurs in 02, you mean to say Joe Pa had absolutely no idea that this was going on? A reasonable person, given the admitted incident of showering with a boy in 98(saying he would never do it again) was told something along those lines in 2002 would be within every reasonable suspicion to have called the proper authorities. And before you say he didn't know that this was going on, he had to have known after the incident in 1998. Eventually a pattern has to form in your mind and cause some reasonable suspicion to have called the police, if not, Joe Pa's legacy was built on lies then.

haha what do you think hearsay is? and theirs another you don't know what he told him. which basically means shit to joepa and the cops because he didn't see it

Cuz, you need to read up on the law. When it comes to child abuse, suspicious activity is enough for an investigation. You are totally wrong saying that McQueary needed to provide a written statement.

In cases such as this, all either one of them needed to do was make a call to child protective services, and it would have been investigated.

Yep......especially child abuse type cases.

Mrs. Seminoleken was a social worker for several years, the majority of their investigations were often started off of hearsay (and this wasn't really even hearsay). That guy doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.

I am a fan of JP and believe he has done as much as anyone in collage football history to promote the sport and PSU football. I myself have tried to give him the benefit of the doubt in that if he TRUELY believed this was going on he would have done more.

HOWEVER, hearsay or not, his job at PSU was not just as a football coach but as a individual whose responsibilities go well beyond the field. In the end, he made a CRITICAL error in judgement on this.

I hope when all the facts are out there that somehow JP comes out on the right end....but right now it doesn't look like it.

It is truly amazing the path of destruction Sandusky left in his wake.

Ummm... Coach, you may want to reread what I said. Just because I didnt use the word monster and all the heavy language does NOT mean I dont condone ANY actions in this case. My point is that the information that has been released to the press does NOT implicate JP, in anything other than VERY POOR judgement... and if it did he know (or proven too) would have been indited like the others. JP should have been fired and I dont feel sorry for him that he was. I do feel that if he truly knew and believed what had happened he would not have just reported it to his boss but would have done more.

And yes I do have children and if something like that was done to my kids I would be in jail shortly afterwards....

My differences in this are that I feel JP really didnt know what was going on... I also beleive those that DID know should all be in jail and that the PSU football program should be dissolved for the next 4 years.

Let me TRY and put it another way as I did with a very close friend of mine who had the same beliefs on JP...

I have known him (Mike) for over 35 years.... and here is what I said.... " If someone came to me...a young kid and told me that he thinks he witnessed the horrible acts of Sand.... (cant even type his name anymore) that you did...I would immediately go and ask everyone I could and then ask you (mike) about it...to me it would be completely unbelievable to me that you would do it....if I everyone I spoke with felt the same as me I would tell you that I was still going to report it to my boss, and would...but if I never heard anything else, never saw anything else it is conceivable that I truly did not know or believe it and to call the authorities on something that I believed was not true would forever damage the reputation of an innocent person." (Now, point of reference....this same friend was accused of rape by a girl years after they went out on a date....she never reported it but told everyone about it... (NO ONE believed her) years later she admitted she lied. If someone would have reported it to the police Mikes reputation would be crushed even if he was innocent.)

Everyone who knew about this should be FRIED.... actually I do beleive in the death penalty but I want these people to get "prison population judgment"... However, I just am not going to connect the dots to say JP really knew this was going on or even had some doubts of sands innocence. If JP DID know...he needs to be in jail with everyone else.....

anyway, Im done on this topic... we are mostly in agreement except that I have a hard time believing JP knew this to be true.

People often say that Bobby was too lenient. However, Bobby had the three strike rule. Paterno chose to ignore things in front of his face.

Educators, administrators, and anyone connected with youth have known the rules for over 20 years. Video evidence is not necessary for an investigation. In fact, suspicion is all that is necessary for an investigation in child sex abuse. (And yes, this has resulted in false accusations, but it has also led to the prosecution of serial child molesters)