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  • This thread has been ridiculous.

    Canolee is entitled to his opinion. So's everyone else. Canolee's opinion is Stork > Jones. What's funny is, that canolee has actually taken the time to analyze the film from this game (and others) and based on what he's seen, he likes Stork better. Y'all are going on hell knows what knowledge.

    Barrett Jones is going to get drafted that highly partially because he might NOT be a center. He's played all across the line. They put him at C this year to get the five best linemen on the field. Obviously they liked their depth at T better than C. BJ is so strong in pass protect with quick feet that I think he could play as an LT in the NFL. I do not think he has the road grader size to play RT. Very smart and technically sound player. He also has more experience than Stork...proven product from the current preeminent college football powerhouse. The chance he can play T instead is why he is going to be drafted as high as he will be. If teams do not think he can play T, his stock might slip through no fault of his own.

    Stork is an interior lineman all the way. Not a snowball's chance in hell that he can play anywhere other than C or G. Interior linemen are typically drafted lower in the NFL. Stork might actually be a better center than Jones....stouter, more strength. BJ struggled against Miss St. and TAMU (by his standards), when he faced off with a big DT (Cherrington) and a quick, little DT (Nealy), respectively. Nealy beat the crap out of him (below 280 lbs)...A&M really made it interesting by playing him over Jones and the other guy (forget his name) at the 3 technique.

    Stork, on the other hand, has arguably been more consistent as a center all season long.

    andy88c

  • Wow!! Alabamas oline is way better than ours. We are the worst 3rd and 1 or 2 team in the country. Bama has 3rd and 1 and its 90% chance they get the first. Stork is our worst offensive linemen IYAM. I think Yeldon and Lacy are better than Wilder and Freeman. But I'd take Pryor, Thompson and Wilder over the 2 bama guys.

    O yeah. Bamas linebackers>>>>>>>>>>> FSU LBERS.

    Noles2012

  • andy88c said...

    This thread has been ridiculous.

    Canolee is entitled to his opinion. So's everyone else. Canolee's opinion is Stork > Jones. What's funny is, that canolee has actually taken the time to analyze the film from this game (and others) and based on what he's seen, he likes Stork better. Y'all are going on hell knows what knowledge.

    Barrett Jones is going to get drafted that highly partially because he might NOT be a center. He's played all across the line. They put him at C this year to get the five best linemen on the field. Obviously they liked their depth at T better than C. BJ is so strong in pass protect with quick feet that I think he could play as an LT in the NFL. I do not think he has the road grader size to play RT. Very smart and technically sound player. He also has more experience than Stork...proven product from the current preeminent college football powerhouse. The chance he can play T instead is why he is going to be drafted as high as he will be. If teams do not think he can play T, his stock might slip through no fault of his own.

    Stork is an interior lineman all the way. Not a snowball's chance in hell that he can play anywhere other than C or G. Interior linemen are typically drafted lower in the NFL. Stork might actually be a better center than Jones....stouter, more strength. BJ struggled against Miss St. and TAMU (by his standards), when he faced off with a big DT (Cherrington) and a quick, little DT (Nealy), respectively. Nealy beat the crap out of him (below 280 lbs)...A&M really made it interesting by playing him over Jones and the other guy (forget his name) at the 3 technique.

    Stork, on the other hand, has arguably been more consistent as a center all season long.

    The main point of Ca olee's post was the the ol's overall are fairly equal.

    How do you think we stack up across the board?

    Whether Jones will be drafted high really is secondary-he will be drafted and Stork won't because Jones is better.

    Canolee is entitled to his opinion and as you have said everyone else is entitled to their opinion.

    TNOLE27

  • atgreek said...

    Actually, he DIDN'T say that.

    What he said, since your comprehension skills have momentarily deserted you, was "I believe Barrett Jones is an AA and is a smart OL, but I’d take Stork over him in all honesty."

    Personal preference, while stating he is an AA.

    And he gave you a reason why.

    Actually, he did say that.

    TNOLE27

  • How is this thread still going?

    Leighty

  • andy, excellent post!

    I question whether Jones will able to be play LT on Sunday. ESPN thinks he has trouble in space and he struggled against LSU in 2011 in the video above. I think he will most likely end up on a team that is zone heavy. His football IQ, versatility and production will definitely help his cause.

    Awww poor Leighty, in about 15 years if you are a good boy, you will have a combined 2000 views of your posts. Since you are constructive of me, how about more content and less dickhead comments? Just a thought, brah.

    canolee

  • I normally try to stay out of the mud slinging, but this is becoming unbearable. I enjoy reading canolee's breakdowns, as well as everyone else's, because I have never played football and honestly do not have a firm grasp on things from a player's/coach's point of view. Unfortunately anything that might have been learned ITT was greatly overshadowed by all the immature, pointless garbage that has become a mainstay on this board over the last year. It really needs to stop. As has been stated many times if you do not like reading a poster's comments or breakdowns, put them on ignore. If you disagree, why is it so hard to do it in a mature, respectful way? The most disappointing thing about this thread is that a Bama fan read canolee's analysis and, although he did not have the same opinion, was far more respectful than quite a few of the Noles on here.

    This post was edited by mtreber1 on 12/28/2012 at 8:39 AM

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    mtreber1

  • I can't stand that 27 and otown have made this place like Warchant.

    nhhowell

  • mtreber1 said...

    I normally try to stay out of the mud slinging, but this is becoming unbearable. I enjoy reading canolee's breakdowns, as well as everyone else's, because I have never played football and honestly do not have a firm grasp on things from a player's/coach's point of view. Unfortunately anything that might have been learned ITT was greatly overshadowed by all the immature, pointless garbage that has become a mainstay on this board over the last year. It really needs to stop. As has been stated many times if you do not like reading a poster's comments or breakdowns, put them on ignore. If you disagree, why is it so hard to do it in a mature, respectful way? The most disappointing thing about this thread is that a Bama fan read canolee's analysis and, although he did not have the same opinion, was far more respectful than quite a few of the Noles on here.

    I agree this is sad. The lack of human decency is appalling, and to think we are all fans of the same team.

    DinTexas

  • canolee said...

    Awww poor Leighty, in about 15 years if you are a good boy, you will have a combined 2000 views of your posts. Since you are constructive of me, how about more content and less dickhead comments? Just a thought, brah.

    Kill yourself. Just a thought, brah.

    Leighty

  • DinTexas said...

    I agree this is sad. The lack of human decency is appalling...

    lol

    Human decency? This is an internet message board. Some slapdick takes some heat for making absurd comments, and the white knights of the board act like those of us who happen to disagree are running sweat shops on some island in the south Pacific.

    Leighty

  • Someone needs a hug!

    canolee

  • Leighty said...

    lol

    Human decency? This is an internet message board. Some slapdick takes some heat for making absurd comments, and the white knights of the board act like those of us who happen to disagree are running sweat shops on some island in the south Pacific.

    You are on meth. Obviously.

    DinTexas

  • DinTexas said...

    You are on meth. Obviously.

    If I was on meth, I would have pawned my computer a long time ago.

    Leighty

  • Leighty said...

    How is this thread still going?

    Great until you showed up. I love reading how people actually analyze and dissect plays and players rather than just spouting empty disagreements with nothing to back it up.

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    EZ E

  • canolee said...

    Someone needs a hug!

    In all seriousness, what you have managed to accomplish over the last few years is truly exceptional. You have managed to troll both sides of the aisle.

    You troll those of us with a clue with your "Faircloth is good" and "Stork is better than Barrett Jones" talk, and you've managed to convince those without a clue that you know what you're talking about, a solid troll in its own right. You've held up the gag for multiple years and had success with it on multiple message boards.

    The simultaneous troll is truly an accomplishment, and I salute you.

    Leighty

  • EZ E said...

    Great until you showed up. I love reading how people actually analyze and dissect plays and players rather than just spouting empty disagreements with nothing to back it up.

    The resumes of the two players have been compared multiple times in this thread.

    Leighty

  • Leighty said...

    In all seriousness, what you have managed to accomplish over the last few years is truly exceptional. You have managed to troll both sides of the aisle.

    You troll those of us with a clue with your "Faircloth is good" and "Stork is better than Barrett Jones" talk, and you've managed to convince those without a clue that you know what you're talking about, a solid troll in its own right. You've held up the gag for multiple years and had success with it on multiple message boards.

    The simultaneous troll is truly an accomplishment, and I salute you.

    How old are you?

    haitian_nole

  • I think the IGNORE button should work as follows: those being ignored by op, may not post on thread. The idiots would thin out quickly.

    DinTexas

  • Leighty said...

    In all seriousness, what you have managed to accomplish over the last few years is truly exceptional. You have managed to troll both sides of the aisle.

    You troll those of us with a clue with your "Faircloth is good" and "Stork is better than Barrett Jones" talk, and you've managed to convince those without a clue that you know what you're talking about, a solid troll in its own right. You've held up the gag for multiple years and had success with it on multiple message boards.

    The simultaneous troll is truly an accomplishment, and I salute you.

    Now I'm curious. I know a bit about Canolee, but nothing about you, sir. You say you have a clue. OK, I would like to hear about your experience, either as a player on a HS level or higher, or as a Coach on a HS level or higher, or whatever capacity you learned your chops within. I always give credit where it is due, but like to know why I should place my confidence in someone before I do so. It's one thing to SAY one has an understanding of the nuance and minutiae of the game of tackle football, and another have gained the same through actual experience. This is NOT a flame, but a serious inquiry as to what back story you bring to the table.

    Thanks in advance for your reply.

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    Nashnole

  • Nashnole said...

    Now I'm curious. I know a bit about Canolee, but nothing about you, sir. You say you have a clue. OK, I would like to hear about your experience, either as a player on a HS level or higher, or as a Coach on a HS level or higher, or whatever capacity you learned your chops within. I always give credit where it is due, but like to know why I should place my confidence in someone before I do so. It's one thing to SAY one has an understanding of the nuance and minutiae of the game of tackle football, and another have gained the same through actual experience. This is NOT a flame, but a serious inquiry as to what back story you bring to the table.

    Thanks in advance for your reply.

    He's probably a expert in Madden.....roflmao

    haitian_nole

  • canolee said...

    Awww poor Leighty, in about 15 years if you are a good boy, you will have a combined 2000 views of your posts. Since you are constructive of me, how about more content and less dickhead comments? Just a thought, brah.

    you are such a hypocrite

    Bubblez

  • Bubblez said...

    you are such a hypocrite

    Can't we all just get along? Look, Canolee has taken more than enough abuse. He has maintened an excellent demeanor during the ongoing thread.

    I generally find that his threads provide some insight on team performance. This was no attempt a means by me to "Shout down" Canolee from posting his observations on this board in the future.

    However, people accusing others of making this place like Gene's fiefdom is unacceptable. A truly disgusting insult.

    Lastly, the accentuate the positive, I don't see downvotes being thrown around like spitballs in a 3rd grade class. Now that is progress.

    TNOLE27

  • Bubblez said...

    you are such a hypocrite

    Can't we all just get along? Look, Canolee has taken more than enough abuse. He has maintened an excellent demeanor during the ongoing thread.

    I generally find that his threads provide some insight on team performance. This was no attempt a means by me to "Shout down" Canolee from posting his observations on this board in the future.

    However, people accusing others of making this place like Gene's fiefdom is unacceptable. A truly disgusting insult.

    Lastly, the accentuate the positive, I don't see downvotes being thrown around like spitballs in a 3rd grade class. Now that is progress.

    TNOLE27

  • I actually moved into a Holiday Inn Express? Which also helped me win my leagues sack title(16) in three different decades(did it in my twenties, thirties and this year at 40).

    Smoke and mirrors, ese!

    Oh and I once ate my own poop and I'm pretty sure it had magical powers.

    canolee