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There are Cane fans that think their class is better....

  • seriously. I just talked to one. I just let him have it.....as in I didnt say anything. I was stunned.

    fsufsu

  • There are FSU fans who are disappointed in this class.

    Most people are stupid

    mj1701a

  • We are FIGHTING off Alabama, USC (real one), LSU, Texas for our recruits. Miami's class is the safest thing since Fort Knox was legit. Basically any commit of theirs someone makes a run at decommits or will.

    Duke Johnson is elite. Crazy good.

    Other than him they have some nice pieces other teams would like to add but are fine without. They are desperate, DESPERATE, along the DL. Their star recruit is Jelani Hamilton. Come on man.

    fsufsu

  • mj1701a said...

    There are FSU fans who are disappointed in this class.

    Most people are stupid

    Could it be because it's been awhile(to the best of my memory) since we've gotten a commit? I'm excited about this class, and in no way fall into this camp, just throwing it out there as a theory as to why FSU fans feel this way.....at least some of them anyway.

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    Armynole03

  • Armynole03 said...

    Could it be because it's been awhile(to the best of my memory) since we've gotten a commit? I'm excited about this class, and in no way fall into this camp, just throwing it out there as a theory as to why FSU fans feel this way.....at least some of them anyway.

    Absolutely. I am friends with bnknole and if we dont get a commit every 30 days he starts getting sad or something lol.

    It sucks but awesome early commits we all start to undervalue after a while but some folks almost literally forget about them.

    fsufsu

  • fsufsu said...

    Absolutely. I am friends with bnknole and if we dont get a commit every 30 days he starts getting sad or something lol.

    It sucks but awesome early commits we all start to undervalue after a while but some folks almost literally forget about them.

    I like the early commits, they tend to stick more often than not, unless I'm missing something.

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  • fsufsu said...

    seriously. I just talked to one. I just let him have it.....as in I didnt say anything. I was stunned.

    Smart not saying anything. You can't talk sense to most Cane fans. I have friends who are Cane friends, some are delusional and illogical, they think because they have 31 commits or how ever many that they have a better class than FSU. Tried to explain to them that we don't have that many scholarships available, and this class is based on quality no quantity. But some Cane fans are rational, they understand that it's a process with Golden. I will give Golden credit, he is staying at UM despite the sanctions and he has put together a pretty decent class. Duke, Bush, Hamilton, Jean-Louis, Lewis, McCord, Dewey.........pretty good names. They are bringing talent in, but they are also bringing in some projects. The coaching staff has some work to do in developing those players.

    OrlandoNole

  • Armynole03 said...

    I like the early commits, they tend to stick more often than not, unless I'm missing something.

    +1

    OrlandoNole

  • Was it Nick?

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  • Most fans cling to whatever positive they can, and right now because of formulas on Rivals and Scout their class is ranked higher. So they cling to that instead of mentioning they are barely ranked higher than us with 2x the number of committed kids.

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  • fsufsu said...

    seriously. I just talked to one. I just let him have it.....as in I didnt say anything. I was stunned.

    If you compare the average of the ratings of Florida State's entire class of fifteen to average of the ratings of Miami's top fifteen there is not much difference. I looked at four different recruiting services and only one gave a significant edge to Florida State's fifteen. The FSU class includes a couple of kickers and kickers don't get much love from recruiting services so that brings down their average significantly. However, Miami has thirty one recruits. When some of the fifteen don't pan out, Miami has more depth to their class. Some of those bottom half recruits well develop into quality college players. As of right now, this FSU class is better but the difference is not as vast as some would like to believe. Fifteen to fifteen, the classes are not that far apart and Miami's class has more wiggle room when it comes to recruits that wind up being disappointing. This wasn't meant to be inflammatory just take it for what it's worth.

    This post was edited by andrew32 on 1/8/2012 at 4:12 PM

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  • Come Feb. 1st. when the smoke settles we will love our class. The naive blind fans down south will know whats up. These recruiting classes we are bringing in is the reason we will be throwing thunder bolts from a top that state mountain for years to come.

    coachTnole

  • BushidoNole said...

    Why are you shocked?

    If you took a poll out of 10 Miami fans, 9 of them would say that Miami is the top football team in Florida, has the best recruiting class in Florida, will win the ACC next season, and will win a National Championship before FSU or Florida.

    This is a fan base that claimed that they had EIGHT 5-stars in their 2008 class, and that the only reason Rivals didn't rank them correctly was so that it didn't show bias towards Miami, etc. They thought Aldarius Johnson and his 4.9 speed was Andre Johnson v2.0, etc.

    The delusion is strong in the 305.

    We see what that class accomplished too. Zero bowl wins and one winning season( 10 wins or more). I would not brag on that class if I were them.
    Miami has twice the commits we have and is not even in the top 10 in espn or 24/7 rankings and only 4 spots ahead of us in rivals. Again, nothing to brag about.

    They may not have that many recruits after the Ncaa comes down on them. Bowl bans and loss of schollys will guarantee they wont be on top fora very long tone

    904FSUfan

  • andrew32 said...

    As of right now, this FSU class is better but the difference is not as vast as some would like to believe.

    Yes they are and it will only get worse.

    fsukum

  • Andrew don’t waste your time with these guys, let them enjoy it is their given right to be happy.gunnoles

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    MrHurricane305

  • OrlandoNole said...

    Smart not saying anything. You can't talk sense to most Cane fans. I have friends who are Cane friends, some are delusional and illogical, they think because they have 31 commits or how ever many that they have a better class than FSU. Tried to explain to them that we don't have that many scholarships available, and this class is based on quality no quantity. But some Cane fans are rational, they understand that it's a process with Golden. I will give Golden credit, he is staying at UM despite the sanctions and he has put together a pretty decent class. Duke, Bush, Hamilton, Jean-Louis, Lewis, McCord, Dewey.........pretty good names. They are bringing talent in, but they are also bringing in some projects. The coaching staff has some work to do in developing those players.

    +1 ur on point...

    CentralRockets

  • fsukum said...

    Yes they are and it will only get worse.

    It will get much worse.

    In this cycle FSU has signed 4-5 guys who are legitimately the best player at their position in the entire country.

    Miami is also higher than they should be in the ratings because they are already at 30 commits.

    By signing day UM will drop significantly in the ESPN, Scout, Rivals, and 247 recruiting rankings.

    rms02d

  • fsufsu said...

    seriously. I just talked to one. I just let him have it.....as in I didnt say anything. I was stunned.

    All I know is I would'nt trade our class for theirs.
    They would kill for our DL recruits you can be sure.

    Crappy Davenpot

  • Andrew you are just finding solace in the fact that many of the rankings are so similar numerically.

    I can break down one reason why Miami's class sucks. The Defensive front seven. Your current team will be terrible there and your class is "good". You needed epic and have good. And we are going to take Northrup.

    You can break down how your WRs are good but your current roster sucks at WR so good luck, ours is stacked and we got the best WR of the entire group it looked like.

    Its about meeting needs. We still need a good corner but aside from that our class is better than yours but the real issue isn't that. For our teams to get closer going into next year you guys needed a 30 man class that is as good as you thought your 2008 class was. That isn't happening.

    fsufsu

  • You really don't know what Golden is telling recruits either. Remember, Kiffin told USC recruits that he already knew what the sanctions were going to be and there wasn't going to be a bowl ban and only a handful of ships lost. Miami got Henderson from them because of that lie. Maybe the Canes really believe that their penalty will be a slap on the wrist with this years self banning bowl the only real punishment.

    Noleville

  • fsufsu said...

    Andrew you are just finding solace in the fact that many of the rankings are so similar numerically.

    I can break down one reason why Miami's class sucks. The Defensive front seven. Your current team will be terrible there and your class is "good". You needed epic and have good. And we are going to take Northrup.

    You can break down how your WRs are good but your current roster sucks at WR so good luck, ours is stacked and we got the best WR of the entire group it looked like.

    Its about meeting needs. We still need a good corner but aside from that our class is better than yours but the real issue isn't that. For our teams to get closer going into next year you guys needed a 30 man class that is as good as you thought your 2008 class was. That isn't happening.

    Yes, that's exactly what I found solace in.

    Miami needs help all over the map (front seven, secondary, o-line, receiver, water boy you name it). Any recruit they get meets their needs.

    I think the Buckeyes could get Northrup.

    I thought the 08' group was overrated. Among other things, too many players taken off of a single team for my liking. Harris was a spread Quarterback, if he was anything. Miami usually tries to run a pro style offense, offering that kid didn't make sense. The same prognosticators that thought the 08' class was good are the same ones that assess every class, guess you just never know.

    FSU would have to stub their toe or Golden would have to be the second coming of Vince Lombardi for Miami to reach an equal level with FSU over the next couple seasons. Anything beyond that is hard to predict, college football scene is just too volatile. I don't think that's what this class is about nor should it be.

    National signing day is still to come. Who knows what could happen? Anyways, I just thought the comparison of the classes as they currently stand was interesting.

    Take care.

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  • Noleville said...

    You really don't know what Golden is telling recruits either. Remember, Kiffin told USC recruits that he already knew what the sanctions were going to be and there wasn't going to be a bowl ban and only a handful of ships lost. Miami got Henderson from them because of that lie. Maybe the Canes really believe that their penalty will be a slap on the wrist with this years self banning bowl the only real punishment.

    He is either a smooth operator or a false prophet. One would have to think that every time he walks into a recruits living room he has a big blinking sign above him that reads "SANCTIONS". Time will tell.

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    Ray, when someone asks you if you're a god, you say "YES"!

    andrew32

  • Andrew,
    I have found your posts in this thread respectful, while talking up your Canes.
    No prob there.
    You seem realistic re: the next couple of years, which most Cane fans are not.

    You are right, that anything beyond 1 or 2 years is impossible to predict.

    I, for one, enjoy having a strong UM. Lord knows, the ACC could use another strong
    team that doesn't choke in the bowls!

    Tom81

  • And there you guys go self appointed paper champions...

    You guys have had 2 really good recruiting classes but have yet to accomplish anything significant. Until you do your in the same boat

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