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"I never knew I had a foot until I noticed it was on your neck"
FSU OL history:
2008 all underclass men group that stayed through 2010 and were elite in 2009 and 2010. Hudson went early, Datko and Zebrie were considered early round prospects also.
2011 should've been fine but Datko got hurt, Spurlock never recovered from concussions, Zebrie stopped caring, Orelus, Faircloth, etc couldn't stay healthy, Krug had injury issues, etc.
2011 was a disaster because of poor scholarship management and yes - bad luck. The amount of starts we lost to injury in 2011 was unparalleled. Look at Phil Steele's chart from after the year. Jimbo took a gamble not taking OL in 2010 because the D was so bad and there were pieces there for a successful line at the time.
The 2012 OL was damned good, especially when you consider the circumstances - 2 tackles in first season of D-1 football as OTs, 2 sophomore guards and a converted TE at center.
You've pointed to short yardage issues, and most of that has been on the backs. Holes have been there quite often. If you were to put together a montage of FSU short yardage plays next to a montage of any good OL not named alabama (best OL in CFB history) - you'd be more disappointed with play calls and back play than OL play.
This line was #5 in Rushing S&P this year, damned impressive.
And if you watch the UF game, FSU didn't get "dominated" by the UF DL. Not at all. We should've run it more up the middle. We had success running downhill on them, but their elite DL (Floyd, mostly) would blow up stretch plays.
And people who want us to run at 8 in the box against NIU - lol. Passing all over them and going up and down the field forced them to change their coverage, then we started destroying them. 8 in the box will beat 6 blockers, no matter who you are.
So toss out 2007, since the roster was absolutely empty, and consider 2008 was year one with his players. You've got 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012 as your sample set. All but one have been very good college OL.
But we damned sure need to ramp up recruiting tackles.
I've said it many times and I'll say it again: if you watch the 2012 FSU OL performance and come away thinking it's a poor coaching job, you do not understand football. It was by far the best coaching job on the team this year. Name me a coach whose unit performed so well or improved so much in 2012. The close runner up would be QBs. The difference between 2011 EJ and 2012 EJ was huge - even if his mistakes made you pull your hair out.
Bama oline is elite. Trickett hasn't had one. We have always struggled against good dlines. Bama would not have had negative 15 rushing yards against anyone. You have to take the schedule factor in as well. How many quality dline did fsu play this year. I understand you play who you play but that does factor into it. The problem people have is we shouldn't have had a converted dt and a juco having to start on the oline. That goes back to recruiting.
996, not so sure on the coaching job at QB(EJ was poor at the zone read, feeling pressure in the pocket-something you have or don't have and less about coaching-although he didn't recognize were the pressure was coming from pre snap, and he set up too deep in the pocket at times, which allowed for sacks on plays where Watson and Cam ran the DE 9 yards up the field).
But I'm with you on the OL. It was good enough to win a championship.
Teams have running game coordinators, because you need a cohesive effort amongst all the units. Bama's group was more experienced than ours, but the biggest difference was they had three bad ass TE's and two big backs that had good vision and made the right read.
Chris Nee of 247Sports.com. You can follow me on twitter @CNee247.
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