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Bowden4prez said...
Some of you have missed the big picture of what he has done for FSU. Practice facility, modern S&C, player dorms, been a huge proponent of getting us out of this abortion of a conference. When we start pulling 30 mil per year, you will get it.
Bottom line, you need to pay like a top job to remain a top job.
I have family that are Hawkeye fans. Iowa pays Kirk 3.8 per year, to lose to CMU. Yet, they get it. Win or lose, it solidifies Iowa as a top job when they need to hire someone new. There is no guess work. Candidates know what they can receive with success.
Our fans unfortunately still think like a small market team. I for one, am thankful that Fisher is elevating our expectations. When Baylor and TCU are paying more than FSU, it's time to remind people what FSU is.
One poster put it best on another site. FSU staying in the ACC was dangerously close to having the relevance of Ole Miss, known as a cheap program in a cheap conference. IE - a stepping stone.
We need to get that salary up over 3 mil. It says FSU is committed to excellence. If he fails, he'll be fired, but there will be no doubt that this is a big time job.
We need more forward thinkers in our fanbase, and less nickel and dimers that think the year is 1995 and you come to FSU because you just should.
Off my soapbox
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Bowden4prez said...
Yeah, and you still don't get it. You have a guy that won an ACC title for the first time since 2005, and if we don't increase his salary, after other schools do, his salary would likely fall outside the top 20 in the country.
What does that say? Tells future coaches winning the conference means crap to our program. Means anything but overachieving or meeting expectations is unacceptable, in any season. It means that unless you are winning a Natty, you are going to be paid around ~2.5 million, and you better like it. Nevermind that Baylor might double your salary. Nevermind that Iowa might double your salary. Nevermind that TCU might double your salary. And they will put up with 8-4 while you do it.
Some people are just stubborn, or get their feelings hurt because we came up short this year. Get over it. We are progressing every season. But more importantly, we have created the infrastructure for the program that Bobby left in the 90s to move ourselves forward.
I would prefer that from here on out, a coach never makes less than 3 million per year at FSU. It's frankly disgusting that Auburn and Tennessee will drive the Brinks truck, and we will offer midtier PAC-12 money. You think FSU is a midtier PAC program? I don't.
Your post is pure emotion, and I thank FSU everyday for not acting like you suggest, because we'd be irrelevant in 10 years. You'd still be talking about our fertile recruiting base like a Miami fan, when the realists know the entire landscape of CFB has changed.
Hoping we leave fans like you in the 90s, and find boosters with deep pockets and grand visions as we move this great program forward.
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Chris Nee said...
It is a big thing. A marked improvement. Completely agree there. I just feel that he is already paid to create those results and has built-in incentives with regards to achieving such accomplishments.
I know I am likely in the minority in being opposed to a raise. I'm also not going to lose sleep over it if he gets it and it is within reason.
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Chris Nee said...
Back to your corners. No need to get restless with one another. I am not in favor of a raise being given but I thought B4P had an excellent, well thought out post that brings up some good points. A possible raise is every bit about image for FSU as it is for Fisher earning it with results.
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It is a big thing. A marked improvement. Completely agree there. I just feel that he is already paid to create those results and has built-in incentives with regards to achieving such accomplishments.
I know I am likely in the minority in being opposed to a raise. I'm also not going to lose sleep over it if he gets it and it is within reason.
This post was edited by dennisnole on 12/4/2012 at 9:17 PM
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dennisnole said...
This is how i feel. He gets bonuses for winning acc, going to bcs bowl. Was always fine with an extension b/c I understand that's just how it's done. Against a raise, but see the positives in giving one.
As for the perception ... it's certainly improved since Jimbo has been head coach. But I think most outside of the FSU bubble think we underachieved this year. I have no way to prove or disprove it. Just the sense I get from reading and listening. I could be wrong.
I don't think Jimbo should be going anywhere. I also wouldn't be too upset had he taken another job (of course depending on who we would've hired I reserved the right to have changed my mind). Hopefully FSU has a great season next year, matching or exceeding this years team, and Jimbo quiets his critics.
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Chris Nee said...
Never said they weren't results. They are. I said a potential raise has every bit to do with the idea of image (for FSU as a program) as it does results produced by Fisher.
His current contract has result based incentives built into it. He earns good money for the success he has brought on the field on top of the base he is guaranteed regardless of wins/losses.
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