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New Contract For Jimbo

  • Good post, Bowden

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    BushidoNole ●

  • Bowden4prez said...

    Some of you have missed the big picture of what he has done for FSU. Practice facility, modern S&C, player dorms, been a huge proponent of getting us out of this abortion of a conference. When we start pulling 30 mil per year, you will get it.

    Bottom line, you need to pay like a top job to remain a top job.

    I have family that are Hawkeye fans. Iowa pays Kirk 3.8 per year, to lose to CMU. Yet, they get it. Win or lose, it solidifies Iowa as a top job when they need to hire someone new. There is no guess work. Candidates know what they can receive with success.

    Our fans unfortunately still think like a small market team. I for one, am thankful that Fisher is elevating our expectations. When Baylor and TCU are paying more than FSU, it's time to remind people what FSU is.

    One poster put it best on another site. FSU staying in the ACC was dangerously close to having the relevance of Ole Miss, known as a cheap program in a cheap conference. IE - a stepping stone.

    We need to get that salary up over 3 mil. It says FSU is committed to excellence. If he fails, he'll be fired, but there will be no doubt that this is a big time job.

    We need more forward thinkers in our fanbase, and less nickel and dimers that think the year is 1995 and you come to FSU because you just should.

    Off my soapbox

    Probably one of the best post ever on this board!!

    NoleAkiefer ●

  • Bowden4prez said...

    I for one, am thankful that Fisher is elevating our expectations.

    ffnole said...

    Preach it Bowden.....agree 100%. Give him a one year extension and $3MM/year package. Fisher is 30-10 in three years...75% winning percentage.

    Oh the irony of these posts. Is Sexton paying you guys?

    75% winning percentage in the ACC....with top 10 recruiting classes in 9 out of the last 10 years.

    /The Big 12 can't get here soon enough, so it can be proven on the field, instead of debated in the forums.

    This post was edited by FsuFanForever on 12/4/2012 at 5:02 PM

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  • FsuFanForever said...

    Oh the irony of these posts. Is Sexton paying you guys?

    75% winning percentage in the ACC....with top 10 recruiting classes in 9 out of the last 10 years.

    /The Big 12 can't get here soon enough, so it can be proven on the field, instead of debated in the forums.

    So, you can't wait for us to fail so that you can tell people you were right? no

    Your priorities are really jacked up.

    Legio mihi nomen est, quia multi sumu [My name is Legion, for we are many.]

    Cuthbert

  • FsuFanForever said...

    Oh the irony of these posts. Is Sexton paying you guys?

    75% winning percentage in the ACC....with top 10 recruiting classes in 9 out of the last 10 years.

    /The Big 12 can't get here soon enough, so it can be proven on the field, instead of debated in the forums.

    Where what can be proven on the field instead of debated in the forums?

    fsufelip

  • Bowden4prez said...

    Some of you have missed the big picture of what he has done for FSU. Practice facility, modern S&C, player dorms, been a huge proponent of getting us out of this abortion of a conference. When we start pulling 30 mil per year, you will get it.

    Bottom line, you need to pay like a top job to remain a top job.

    I have family that are Hawkeye fans. Iowa pays Kirk 3.8 per year, to lose to CMU. Yet, they get it. Win or lose, it solidifies Iowa as a top job when they need to hire someone new. There is no guess work. Candidates know what they can receive with success.

    Our fans unfortunately still think like a small market team. I for one, am thankful that Fisher is elevating our expectations. When Baylor and TCU are paying more than FSU, it's time to remind people what FSU is.

    One poster put it best on another site. FSU staying in the ACC was dangerously close to having the relevance of Ole Miss, known as a cheap program in a cheap conference. IE - a stepping stone.

    We need to get that salary up over 3 mil. It says FSU is committed to excellence. If he fails, he'll be fired, but there will be no doubt that this is a big time job.

    We need more forward thinkers in our fanbase, and less nickel and dimers that think the year is 1995 and you come to FSU because you just should.

    Off my soapbox

    Quoted for truth.

    Great post.... clap

    Northeast Nole

  • FsuFanForever said...

    Oh the irony of these posts. Is Sexton paying you guys?

    75% winning percentage in the ACC....with top 10 recruiting classes in 9 out of the last 10 years.

    /The Big 12 can't get here soon enough, so it can be proven on the field, instead of debated in the forums.

    You'd fit right in with Auburn fans.

    fsukum

  • Cuthbert said...

    So, you can't wait for us to fail so that you can tell people you were right? no

    Your priorities are really jacked up.

    My priority is to keep things in perspective.

    The second half of Georgia Tech and NC State help me do that. If you choose to filter what you don't want to believe, that's a you-problem.

    This post was edited by FsuFanForever on 12/4/2012 at 5:15 PM

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  • FsuFanForever said...

    Oh the irony of these posts. Is Sexton paying you guys?

    75% winning percentage in the ACC....with top 10 recruiting classes in 9 out of the last 10 years.

    /The Big 12 can't get here soon enough, so it can be proven on the field, instead of debated in the forums.

    Yeah, and you still don't get it. You have a guy that won an ACC title for the first time since 2005, and if we don't increase his salary, after other schools do, his salary would likely fall outside the top 20 in the country.

    What does that say? Tells future coaches winning the conference means crap to our program. Means anything but overachieving or meeting expectations is unacceptable, in any season. It means that unless you are winning a Natty, you are going to be paid around ~2.5 million, and you better like it. Nevermind that Baylor might double your salary. Nevermind that Iowa might double your salary. Nevermind that TCU might double your salary. And they will put up with 8-4 while you do it.

    Some people are just stubborn, or get their feelings hurt because we came up short this year. Get over it. We are progressing every season. But more importantly, we have created the infrastructure for the program that Bobby left in the 90s to move ourselves forward.

    I would prefer that from here on out, a coach never makes less than 3 million per year at FSU. It's frankly disgusting that Auburn and Tennessee will drive the Brinks truck, and we will offer midtier PAC-12 money. You think FSU is a midtier PAC program? I don't.

    Your post is pure emotion, and I thank FSU everyday for not acting like you suggest, because we'd be irrelevant in 10 years. You'd still be talking about our fertile recruiting base like a Miami fan, when the realists know the entire landscape of CFB has changed.

    Hoping we leave fans like you in the 90s, and find boosters with deep pockets and grand visions as we move this great program forward.

    This post was edited by Bowden4prez on 12/4/2012 at 5:19 PM

    Bowden4prez

  • Cuthbert said...

    So, you can't wait for us to fail so that you can tell people you were right? no

    Your priorities are really jacked up.

    If Fisher isn't going to compete for titles, then I'd like to know sooner rather than later so we can move in another direction. He hasn't come close yet and we just completed year 3. And no we were not close this year. Close would be uf, uga, kstate, oregon.

    He'll have all the excuses available to him in year 4 i.e. coaching turnover, loss of players to the nfl, injuries, new qb and the always useful youth excuse. Will Jimbo use those excuses as a crutch or will he overcome them? I'm hoping for the latter but would put money on the former.

    Also I'd never considered paying Jimbo more than he's worth just to show we can. I can see the logic in that and wouldn't be totally against bumping him to 3 mil. If I'm asked I'll definitely give them the thumbs up.

    This post was edited by dennisnole on 12/4/2012 at 5:20 PM

    dennisnole

  • fsufelip said...

    Where what can be proven on the field instead of debated in the forums?

    Proving whether or not he is the savior that a lot of posters hope he is... proving if he's capable of increasing his rate of improvement, because as it currently stands... he's had 6-years at OC.... and has fielded meh offenses, and still intends on calling plays next year.

    This is insanity.

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  • FsuFanForever said...

    Proving whether or not he is the savior that a lot of posters hope he is... proving if he's capable of increasing his rate of improvement, because as it currently stands... he's had 6-years at OC.... and has fielded meh offenses, and still intends on calling plays next year.

    This is insanity.

    Savior? He's a football coach. And the comments about the offense are your opinion, are they're not shared by all. I don't share them.

    Why do you feel the need to use words like "Savior"? Is that what you're hoping for? Because that doesn't exist.

    This post was edited by fsufelip on 12/4/2012 at 5:25 PM

    fsufelip

  • Bowden4prez said...

    Yeah, and you still don't get it. You have a guy that won an ACC title for the first time since 2005, and if we don't increase his salary, after other schools do, his salary would likely fall outside the top 20 in the country.

    What does that say? Tells future coaches winning the conference means crap to our program. Means anything but overachieving or meeting expectations is unacceptable, in any season. It means that unless you are winning a Natty, you are going to be paid around ~2.5 million, and you better like it. Nevermind that Baylor might double your salary. Nevermind that Iowa might double your salary. Nevermind that TCU might double your salary. And they will put up with 8-4 while you do it.

    Some people are just stubborn, or get their feelings hurt because we came up short this year. Get over it. We are progressing every season. But more importantly, we have created the infrastructure for the program that Bobby left in the 90s to move ourselves forward.

    I would prefer that from here on out, a coach never makes less than 3 million per year at FSU. It's frankly disgusting that Auburn and Tennessee will drive the Brinks truck, and we will offer midtier PAC-12 money. You think FSU is a midtier PAC program? I don't.

    Your post is pure emotion, and I think FSU everyday for not acting like you suggest, because we'd be irrelevant in 10 years. You'd still be talking about our fertile recruiting base like a Miami fan, when the realists know the entire landscape of CFB has changed.

    Hoping we leave fans like you in the 90s, and find boosters with deep pockets and grand visions as we move this great program forward.

    No sir, you don't get it.

    You can't take 9 out of 10 years of top 10 recruiting classes...and then say what Fisher has done is impressive. It's average thus far. There are plenty of coaches who have done more with less. But very few who have done less with more.

    That's the truth. He earned next year, but he will have to rapidly improve as a coach... 6 years of evidence can't be chalked up to rebuilding.

    This post was edited by FsuFanForever on 12/4/2012 at 5:26 PM

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  • FsuFanForever said...

    Proving whether or not he is the savior that a lot of posters hope he is... proving if he's capable of increasing his rate of improvement, because as it currently stands... he's had 6-years at OC.... and has fielded meh offenses, and still intends on calling plays next year.

    This is insanity.

    Luckily, no one cares what you say....confused

    haitian_nole

  • Lol I am really starting to think people like to hear themselves talk and argue anything...One day everybody wants Jimbo gone..The next day they are all worried because his name is in all these rumors..The next week, They don't agree with giving him a raise to keep him...Good lord people! Some of you should remember what you post in the past at times...A whole lot of hypocrisy going on around here these days...

    AtlBraveNole5

  • Total bullshit, Fisher doesnt deserve another dime.

    noles1983

  • noles1983 said...

    Total bullshit, Fisher doesnt deserve another dime.

    Why?

    fsufelip

  • The majority of you'll se real jerkoffs! Just b/c you have been a "fan" since the 60's,70's & 80's get off your damn high horses and respect what Jimbo has dine since he got here. I love my Noles but most of you posters should shut it or become a bigtime booster to bolster the pot to hire YOUR perceived savior for the program. Sh1t you people suck!

    ghost0420

  • fsufelip said...

    Why?

    Fsu played 2 decent teams this year and went 1-1. He is paid as a top 15 coach right now which is where we are ranked 12th. Yes he won the acc which we all agree is a crap
    Conference and he got a bonus for that.

    If they want to extend him for recruiting purposes fine. Just make sure it does not cost FSU anymore than it would now to buy him out if we decide to fire him in the future. If they want to increase his bonus for winning a national title fine.

    KtownNole

  • So you don't agree with giving him another dime because of FSU's schedule?

    fsufelip

  • KtownNole said...

    Fsu played 2 decent teams this year and went 1-1. He is paid as a top 15 coach right now which is where we are ranked 12th. Yes he won the acc which we all agree is a crap Conference and he got a bonus for that.

    If they want to extend him for recruiting purposes fine. Just make sure it does not cost FSU anymore than it would now to buy him out if we decide to fire him in the future. If they want to increase his bonus for winning a national title fine.

    Exactly, we are already paying him for the results he is getting. I swear, some of you would be fine with him making Saban money. Lets just keep giving him more money every year! Fishers agent can take a long walk off a short bridge. But hey, why stop if our administration never says no.

    This post was edited by noles1983 on 12/4/2012 at 5:56 PM

    noles1983

  • AtlBraveNole5 said...

    Lol I am really starting to think people like to hear themselves talk and argue anything...One day everybody wants Jimbo gone..The next day they are all worried because his name is in all these rumors..The next week, They don't agree with giving him a raise to keep him...Good lord people! Some of you should remember what you post in the past at times...A whole lot of hypocrisy going on around here these days...

    To clarify for you b/c "everybody" and "they" and 'you people" sometimes have differing points of view and it can be confusing.

    some people want Jimbo to stay and were worried he might leave b/c of the rumors. Those people believe giving him a raise is a great way to Keep him. Other people aren't particularly impressed with Jimbo and think he hasn't earned a raise.

    There was consternation from both sides regarding the rumors of other jobs. One side b/c the rumors might actually be true and we'd lose our coach. The other side b/c the were just a ploy by his agent to get more money they think he didn't earn.

    The rumors also create the appearance of instability during a time when half our coaching staff is either moving on or interviewing to move on. This could hurt our recruiting efforts during a year when it has taken a bit of a hit anyways. Both sides probably felt the same about this aspect.

    or something like that.

    This post was edited by dennisnole on 12/4/2012 at 6:02 PM

    dennisnole

  • fsufelip said...

    So you don't agree with giving him another dime because of FSU's schedule?

    He had a hand in that schedule since he got to fsu he begged for crap ooc and div2 games. He got what he wished for a cupcake schedule. He crapped the bed vs nc state and almost did vs vtech, usf, and Georgia tech. UF you could make the argument is a better team. How his performance this year should get a raise is beyond me.

    KtownNole

  • KtownNole said...

    He had a hand in that schedule since he got to fsu he begged for crap ooc and div2 games. He got what he wished for a cupcake schedule. He crapped the bed vs nc state and almost did vs vtech, usf, and Georgia tech. UF you could make the argument is a better team. How his performance this year should get a raise is beyond me.

    Jimbo wants more home games because we need the revenue to support the things we're doing as a program. We're already playing Florida OOC, and I've understood that he's fine with playing another school of consequence as well. Rumor has it we're in negotiations to play OK St. in the near future.

    Should Jimbo be blamed for Miami sucking? VT having a down year? WVU backing out of our game?

    fsufelip

  • KtownNole said...

    He had a hand in that schedule since he got to fsu he begged for crap ooc and div2 games. He got what he wished for a cupcake schedule. He crapped the bed vs nc state and almost did vs vtech, usf, and Georgia tech. UF you could make the argument is a better team. How his performance this year should get a raise is beyond me.

    Don't agree you can make the argument uf is a better team. They were ranked higher and performed better in the better conference yet we were still the favorite. We had the better team. Their team was just better prepared.

    dennisnole

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