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  • Lots of responses. Here are some answers. Next year's game can go either way. But if Miami wins, it won't be because FSU didn't show up. I purposely left off current players because you said dominating players. The NFL hasn't been "dominated" by too many young guys (other than a few QBs). I tend to look at Guys who have been or are All Pros. Time will tell if Lamar Miller, Sam Shields, Brandon Harris, Leonard Hankerson, Colin McCarthy and others reach that level. Right now, they are simply starters in the league, which is no different than what FSU has accomplished. As for wasted talent, perhaps you can let me know what has happened to all those great players FSU has had go through the program. Honestly, I would say FSU gets better players than Miami does. It just doesn't seem to translate into real success on the field or in the NFL. Miami has had a bad run, but FSU seems to disappoint every year.

    And if you want real domination, just look at #52. He may be old school but he is possibly the best there ever was. And he was like a ** guy.

    Muzii

  • Hey Coach,

    I wanted to answer your question the last several years you have Jimmy Graham starting TE at Saints, Colin McCarthy starting LB at Tennessee Titans, Matt Bosher starting punter at Atlanta Falcons, Sam Shields starter at Cb at Green Bay, Orlando Franklin starting RT at Denver Broncos.

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    Redzulu

  • Muzii said... FSU seems to disappoint every year.

    Every year?

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    FSUgoNoles24

  • Who cares about UM!? They are totally irrelevant! Why wander to their site? -- I didn't even know they had one. Their 36 fans are bored and lonely and need a hug. I don't have time for hugs. We get Coley, Thomas, Kirkland, and Bryant. They get Burns. Arkansas gets Collins. Move on.

    napoleon

  • Muzii said...

    Will do. We will beat you and then you can crawl back in your hole. Oh, and since 2004 (the time period that we seemed to have sucked and haven't won anything) - Jimmy Graham, Kenny Phillips, Greg Olson, Jon Beason, Calais Campbell, Devin Hester, Antrel Rolle, Sean Taylor, Frank Gore, Kellen Winslow, Vince Wilfork, DJ Williams. YOUR TURN.

    And since 2005 Miami is 2-6 vs. FSU.

    RenegadeNole

  • napoleon said...

    Who cares about UM!? They are totally irrelevant! Why wander to their site? -- I didn't even know they had one. Their 36 fans are bored and lonely and need a hug. I don't have time for hugs. We get Coley, Thomas, Kirkland, and Bryant. They get Burns. Arkansas gets Collins. Move on.

    Hey Nap I will remember you said that an I aint bored have too many reports to do but lets say I do very Well multi tasking. Oh also don't need a Hug that is why I have a Woman.flex

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    Redzulu

  • Renegade,

    We really have been 2-6 against you guys, Hmmm Let me do some research.coffee

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    Redzulu

  • Redzulu said...

    Don,

    Really know your place, I mean we haven't been the dominate team we thought entering the ACC but let's be real can you really say you are happy with your production over the last 10 years, I mean if we are not playing for the National Title we are angry, are you just satisfied with beating us and winning 9 or 10 games a year.

    Responses like this make it appear you have been out riding motor bikes with Kellen Winslow.

    Don't attempt to shift the argument to FSU.

    My point was simply that since you joined the ACC, UM has been an average program that has not sniffed a major bowl or an ACC title, and that's saying something considering how average this conference has been and is.

    You have the potential to be better this season, but based on the results of the past 6-7 years, I doubt any of your 2013 opponents are waving the white flag just yet.

    No one disputes your tradition. However, the last time UM fished in the Top Ten nationally, this years freshman class was either in the 2nd or the 3rd grade?

    This is an FSU message board. Reasonable debate is fine, but some of these shots cross a line, and you will be treated accordingly. It's safe today we could expect the same on the UM board.

    Finally, try to minimize starting sentences you type out with "I mean". Not attempting to be a grammar Nazi, but it really impacts your credibility.

    Don Molino

  • Redzulu said...

    Hey Coach,

    I wanted to answer your question the last several years you have Jimmy Graham starting TE at Saints, Colin McCarthy starting LB at Tennessee Titans, Matt Bosher starting punter at Atlanta Falcons, Sam Shields starter at Cb at Green Bay, Orlando Franklin starting RT at Denver Broncos.

    I have heard of Graham (guy is a beast). The other guys are meh, and did you just list a punter?

    coachTnole

  • Coach,

    Really that is very immature of you, U are the type who bully young guys, I'm not impressed, You asked a question and I answered tell me this? Who can you name over the last 5 years?

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    Redzulu

  • Don,

    Credibility lost is when you don't know your history, I do,yes this is your board but act like you have some kinda sense, we don't expect anyone to waive a white flag, they line up and play ball just like you do and that's all you can ask of anyone.

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    Redzulu

  • Hey everyone keep it classy I am impressed this has so many repsonse with out major flaming - props to Central and Redzulu.

    Overall I actually feel comfortable with beating Miami next year and then the years past that will depend on what happens with the NCAA. You have been building a good base of young talent. If the NCAA goes full retard and does nothing (and we all know thats possible) I think Miami will be pretty damn good in 2 -3 years.

    If they pull a Ric Flair on you and WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO then MIami i will be in the crapper for at least 5 years.

    Sucks it isnt in your control and sucks that the players are not even there anymore but it is what it is. If they give you 30 over 3 and allow FR/SO to transfer............oh shit.

    delawarenole

  • Redzulu said...

    We don't expect anyone to waive a white flag

    Lol, why would they? Verses ranked teams this year, outscored 36-126. GOLDEN ERA!!!

    FYI, its wave not waive. U Grammar

    Lincoln Hawk

  • I don't know what any UM fan saw that would give them confidence against FSU next year. After we spotted them the lead they didn't have a single productive possession until the game was already decided. We shut Duke down and that was all she wrote. I see another shellacking unless of course the ACC refs try to make it interesting (and aggravating) for a third straight year.

    BigErn

  • Until Miami signs something at dt then they won't be anything. Their talent and depth at dt is embarrassing. Their offensive talent is actually pretty good, but they are banking on a 5'9 running back to stay healthy. Several solid wide receivers but no game changers. Oh yeah, their overall depth for the next 3 years will be very bad because of the NCAA.

    NoleBrave03

  • Redzulu said...

    Coach,

    Really that is very immature of you, U are the type who bully young guys, I'm not impressed, You asked a question and I answered tell me this? Who can you name over the last 5 years?

    Wow i kept it about your team, no need for the personal attack. I help kids get ready for college ball not bully them. If my players saw what you wrote, they would laugh at you, and your pathetic approach in here. As for naming ours, we don't bring it up as our focal point in every conversation. One of your posters was bragging about DOMINATE players the hurrishames have put in the league. I simpley asked for a list in the last 5 years. You named a tight end and a PUNTER. Continue...

    coachTnole

  • in 2014 there will only be 3 players left from the Randy Shannon regime. All 3 will be on the oline.

    CentralRockets

  • Redzulu said...

    Renegade,

    We really have been 2-6 against you guys, Hmmm Let me do some research.coffee

    I figured the "YOUR TURN" in the post I replied to was an invitation to try and show how FSU>Miami in recent history. I'll leave the bragging about NFL tight ends and punters to you guys.

    RenegadeNole

  • CentralRockets said...

    in 2014 there will only be 3 players left from the Randy Shannon regime. All 3 will be on the oline.

    In 2014 Duke Johnson will win the Heisman, Kevin Olsen will win ACC ROY, beau sandland will be the first TE drafted, Clive walford will be the 2nd TE drafted, Phillip dorset will be a top 5 reciever, Denzel Perryman will be acc defensive player of the year, Eddie Johnson will be a first round draft pick. Tracy Howard, Deon bush, Rayshawn Jenkins will announce they're returning for there senior season.

    CentralRockets

  • Redzulu said...

    Coach,

    Really that is very immature of you, U are the type who bully young guys, I'm not impressed, You asked a question and I answered tell me this? Who can you name over the last 5 years?

    Patrick Robinson, Lawrence Timmons, Christian ponder, Nigel Bradham, Broderick Bunkley, Graham Gano, Rodney Hudson, Zebrie Sanders, Leon Washington, Geno Hayes, Tony Carter. Some that I can remember from the past five years that are solid NFL players. I understand Miami produces very good players too, but FSU is right up there. I believe FSU and UM are both in the top three of players in the NFL right now. It could've changed, but it's somewhere around there

    MasonS_GoNoles

  • Mason,

    That is a good list and I respect you for Responding back, I was waiting for Coach to respond back since he was so venomous but You stood up with knowledge of your team .

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    Redzulu

  • RenegadeNole said...

    I figured the "YOUR TURN" in the post I replied to was an invitation to try and show how FSU>Miami in recent history. I'll leave the bragging about NFL tight ends and punters to you guys.

    Renegade,

    Its not bragging to list a punter what it shows is that when you have good players they are at all positions not just RB, DT,DE, OT, OG, QB, WR, S,CB, etc we have a lot of guys in the league at all positions and not all of them are the names you hear all the time like Reggie Wayne, Ray Lewis, Frank Gore, Devin Hester and many more but we have some solid players who are doing well.

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    Redzulu

  • Redzulu said...

    Hey Nap I will remember you said that an I aint bored have too many reports to do but lets say I do very Well multi tasking. Oh also don't need a Hug that is why I have a Woman.flex

    Can't read this mess. In between hugs, take English 101 again. Please.

    napoleon

  • CentralRockets said...

    In 2014 Duke Johnson will win the Heisman, Kevin Olsen will win ACC ROY, beau sandland will be the first TE drafted, Clive walford will be the 2nd TE drafted, Phillip dorset will be a top 5 reciever, Denzel Perryman will be acc defensive player of the year, Eddie Johnson will be a first round draft pick. Tracy Howard, Deon bush, Rayshawn Jenkins will announce they're returning for there senior season.

    Yeah that's a bit optimistic

    delawarenole

  • GOD, I hate these threads! I DON'T CARE ABOUT UM OR UM FANS!! Go back to your own site. Please.

    napoleon