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FsuFanForever said...
The NFL makes kids sit out 3-years after graduating, because it greatly increases their fan base....as fans who become emotionally
attached to a kid for 3-years in college, are significantly more likely to follow that kids career into the pros.The NBA recently realized how succesful this has worked for the NFL, and created their own rule...for the same reasons....with plans to scale it up (for longer than a year), as soon as the knee-jerk backlash dies down.
-It's not because they aren't physically ready (some are/some arent)
-It's not because of any other made up PR BS.It's simply smart business. It greatly eases the burden of transitioning audiences from college sports to pro sports.
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noleinohio said...
I completely disagree. It has everything to do with players physically maturing and it gives teams more game tape to review. Teams make fewer mistakes across the board with the exception of QB. The Players Union were big proponets of this rule as they wanted to protect their current members. This is very similar to the rookie wage scale in both the NBA and the NFL. Both unions agreed to this on the basis that those monies be spent on the veteran players.
In my opinion, this rule doesnt increase an NFL teams fan base at all. Are more people going to follow Clowney and his NFL team because he spent 3 years at SC instead of 2?
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MNC said...
It is a great deal. Most of these kids would never get into college without athletics. They get to earn a degree and play in front of thousands of fans. They get free tutors, and all the athletic support to help them achieve their goals. If players think they're being exploited then they can pay their own way to college and be a normal student. I don't understand where the entitlement mentality comes from. If 85 average players were playing for FSU against 85 average players for UF, would you be any less passionate about the outcome? I doubt it.
What the NCAa needs to do is stop letting these kids play in HS allstar games if they are not yet qualified to get into school.
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dennisnole said...
For most college players it is a great deal. For the ones that are on the front page of espn throughout the season and who are used by the networks to promote the big games every Saturday it's not such a good deal. Those tv contracts are worth billions. The scholarships the players receive do not even come close to being fair compensation for the amount of money their skill generates.
Also, I rarely if ever hear about college players complaining about this so I'm not sure what your talking about with entitlement mentality.
Yes if stud football players no longer needed to attend college to be able to go pro many of us would care much less about the outcome of the FSU v uf football game. The tv contracts wouldn't be worth billions anymore. It would become similar to college baseball or DIV 2 football. Less fans and much less money.
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fsukum said...
I'll say this, the first day the NCAA allows schools to give salaries to college players will be the same day that marks the end for FSU football, the team/school pride mentality and the parity surrounding football. FSU has spent in the red for 3 straight years, how do you propose they (and schools significantly worse off than FSU financially) afford to give players salaries as well?
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given2fly said...
I agree completely that it will mark the end of FSU.
But that doesn't change the fact that for star players, like Clowney, people are making millions off his name and in return he gets to attend school for free. It isn't a good deal for him. There isn't a good solution here, but pretending some players (not all) aren't getting screwed over isn't helping.
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ftworthnole42912 said...
That has been and always will be a ridiculous counter argument.. You get into college to better yourself in any way possible. Use that argument when a pharmaceutical major is interning at Eli And Lilly for 20 plus hours a week for 4 years and flying all over the country doing seminars for them to keep their scholarships...
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fsukum said...
Right or wrong, college athletics promote equality. These players don't have to go to college if they feel they are being exploited. They are being given a $50,000 education and in a lot of cases, significantly more than that. We act as if they're being taken advantage of. Every successful business model is the same way. The CEOs of the world make the chunk change while the laborers see very little (NFL just had a dispute over this). That's just the way capitalism works; you earn your stripes.
The average FSU player is getting .11% of FSU's TV revenue while the average NFL player is getting .35% their team's TV revenue, but keep in mind the NCAA allows 32 more players on the "payroll".
It's not apples to apples, but I saw a 40% raise upon graduation. These elite athletes are seeing a 5,000% "raise" upon "graduation" on average ($700,000 a year) and in most cases, significantly more.
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ftworthnole42912 said...
That's less than 2% of an 100 man roster though.. Not equivalent to the normal student body.. I don't get this free education stuff.. Athletes perform a service for their scholarships.. Not Sallie Mae but not just keep a certain gpa and rock on either..
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Memo to anyone crying about Clowney not being able to go PRO