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  • So you really think Miami can beat Florida state when we have owned you the last two years. Plus the players replacing those players that left are not no where near better.

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    duvalnole

  • fearthau83 said...

    Good luck on the NC run again.

    Thanks. Hope to have you rooting for the ACC from you couch in December.

    fsukum

  • fearthau83 said...

    Lol at 45 schollies, even 30... Lulz.. Good luck on the NC run again. But yeah ur right we'll be under .500 bexause we'll lose to duke, Bethune cookman, BC, GT, UVA, USF, KSU, ND. FSU, VT, UNC, and NC state...., FSU, UNC, VT, NC STATE AT HOME BC, DUKE, UVA, GT ON THE ROAD.... Ksu away, notre dame +neutral but truly away. Bethcookman home, so. Florida home.... Soo... Im thinking 8-4 or 7-5 but its possible for 9-3 best case senario.

    And 45 schollies based on whose reports? The NCAA or Yahoo?

    Not sure on the schollies but you will lose - FSU, nd, vt, gt AT LEAST throwin UVA or NCST or Kansas st

    5 or 6 losses don't kid yourself you suck

    delawarenole

  • fearthau83 said...

    It was more talented on the sideline tge first 4 games. Lol after that it was close enough to win every game what was it 8 points or less in each loss. But im saying theoretically 9-3 can be achieved and thats best case, I mean I dont want to hear the laughs when y'all were NC contenders right? And failed miserably... So.. Explain that? I mean we had injuries too so dont try that excuse. I know our D was shaky ESP Lb corp and secondary... Thin ondline... No offensive line continuity... But we managed ok. My realistic expectations are the 7 to 8 win margin but I understand 9 wins is possible stating we lose to VT, Ksu, Nd. Soo...

    FSU never had a shot at the NC realistically this year. Any fan who follows the program knows the stars have been pointing at 2012 since December 2009.

    Your offense was very good but loses ALL talent. Defense was pretty rough and will continue to be. Your DL will be a sieve. You take a step back from an already mediocre team.

    2012 you'll lose to KSU, FSU, ND, GT, UVA, and VT. UNC is possible. There simply isn't much talent on the field.

    Jmnpb996

  • Its all a matter of perspective, I expect better play secondary (I think VT and ray ray finally make a step forward), Spence hurts but Perryman makes up most of that and improves more, the middle will improve, buch. Will finally hopefully do something and Kirby will shine as the season goes on, gi. Paul and Eddie Johnsen show good progress, corners will play better with Howard and Gunter, McGee plays bettwr but not stellar, finie makes good progression... Then the Dline interior will have some experience and depth to work with, we'll have some depth on ends but looking for someone to step up. So we'll improve on D even though right now it may not look like it, and second year in system and hopefully can open up the D playbook instead of 3 plays a first second and third down play... With something other than vanilla coverage with some blitzes.... On offense we lose miller in the backfield but we'll have more versatility with different backs, qb well we shall see. Lockhart is a playmaker, M. Lewis is a playmaker, dorsett is good slot along with hurns,, and j. Carter will pose a threat in red zone, Clive walford should explode this year, and the Oline will be better than last year by strides. Do I think we can beat yall? Well of course I do, will we?? Yes. Gt will get beat as will unc, and NC st. Uva will give us a fit on the road. But I will better tell u how I feel when the schedule is in place cause that plays a factor.

    And when we beat y'all, it wobt be cause of the offense. Special teams and defense will. 2 out of 3 phases. We will just limit our turnovers and win field position.

    It will be a classic fsu um game

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  • fearthau83 said...

    Its all a matter of perspective, I expect better play secondary (I think VT and ray ray finally make a step forward), Spence hurts but Perryman makes up most of that and improves more, the middle will improve, buch. Will finally hopefully do something and Kirby will shine as the season goes on, gi. Paul and Eddie Johnsen show good progress, corners will play better with Howard and Gunter, McGee plays bettwr but not stellar, finie makes good progression... Then the Dline interior will have some experience and depth to work with, we'll have some depth on ends but looking for someone to step up. So we'll improve on D even though right now it may not look like it, and second year in system and hopefully can open up the D playbook instead of 3 plays a first second and third down play... With something other than vanilla coverage with some blitzes.... On offense we lose miller in the backfield but we'll have more versatility with different backs, qb well we shall see. Lockhart is a playmaker, M. Lewis is a playmaker, dorsett is good slot along with hurns,, and j. Carter will pose a threat in red zone, Clive walford should explode this year, and the Oline will be better than last year by strides. Do I think we can beat yall? Well of course I do, will we?? Yes. Gt will get beat as will unc, and NC st. Uva will give us a fit on the road. But I will better tell u how I feel when the schedule is in place cause that plays a factor.

    And when we beat y'all, it wobt be cause of the offense. Special teams and defense will. 2 out of 3 phases. We will just limit our turnovers and win field position.

    It will be a classic fsu um game

    You are completely clueless. This years FSU-UM game may be one of the most lopsided games in the history of the rivalry. FSU is going to curb stomp your terrible team.

    This post was edited by Mass Nole on 2/26/2012 at 7:42 PM

    Mass Nole

  • And reason u say talent is less is cause its unproven. Y'all have alot of unproven talent also, just high rated players. Yall will have good defense just struggling offense, look good at times but just wont be consistant at times. Just a perspective. Not trashing y'all

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  • fearthau83 said...

    Its all a matter of perspective, I expect better play secondary (I think VT and ray ray finally make a step forward), Spence hurts but Perryman makes up most of that and improves more, the middle will improve, buch. Will finally hopefully do something and Kirby will shine as the season goes on, gi. Paul and Eddie Johnsen show good progress, corners will play better with Howard and Gunter, McGee plays bettwr but not stellar, finie makes good progression... Then the Dline interior will have some experience and depth to work with, we'll have some depth on ends but looking for someone to step up. So we'll improve on D even though right now it may not look like it, and second year in system and hopefully can open up the D playbook instead of 3 plays a first second and third down play... With something other than vanilla coverage with some blitzes.... On offense we lose miller in the backfield but we'll have more versatility with different backs, qb well we shall see. Lockhart is a playmaker, M. Lewis is a playmaker, dorsett is good slot along with hurns,, and j. Carter will pose a threat in red zone, Clive walford should explode this year, and the Oline will be better than last year by strides. Do I think we can beat yall? Well of course I do, will we?? Yes. Gt will get beat as will unc, and NC st. Uva will give us a fit on the road. But I will better tell u how I feel when the schedule is in place cause that plays a factor.

    And when we beat y'all, it wobt be cause of the offense. Special teams and defense will. 2 out of 3 phases. We will just limit our turnovers and win field position.

    It will be a classic fsu um game

    if next years game isn't won by UM offense it might be like FSU/UF game this year, our defense is much better than UMs and will force turnovers..... UM will be ready for sure just not sure if they have all the pieces to win.... they are extremely young....

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    FSUgoNoles24

  • fearthau83 said...

    And reason u say talent is less is cause its unproven. Y'all have alot of unproven talent also, just high rated players. Yall will have good defense just struggling offense, look good at times but just wont be consistant at times. Just a perspective. Not trashing y'all

    incorrect FSU talent is much more proven than UMs. it just isn't rated higher.... we played a ton of young guys who earned experience.... if the oline is a middle of the pack ACC then the offense will be much better, ton of talent on offense it all depends the oline.....

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  • Lol, I applaud your opinion as I thought it was funny, but truth is if we play early maybe like 20% chance based on continuity, but later in the season 6% chance. Lopsided is the drubbing we took with loads of talent 2 years ago, and the team that was one dimensional on both sides practically had ya beat last year. So dont jump the gun yet

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  • fearthau83 said...

    Lol, I applaud your opinion as I thought it was funny, but truth is if we play early maybe like 20% chance based on continuity, but later in the season 6% chance. Lopsided is the drubbing we took with loads of talent 2 years ago, and the team that was one dimensional on both sides practically had ya beat last year. So dont jump the gun yet

    how can you tell us not to jump the gun when you basically are jumping the gun..... UM is a wait and see this year.... FSU with what returns should be very competitive.....

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  • FSUgoNoles24 said...

    if next years game isn't won by UM offense it might be like FSU/UF game this year, our defense is much better than UMs and will force turnovers..... UM will be ready for sure just not sure if they have all the pieces to win.... they are extremely young....

    Atleast u make better sense than the first reply, we'll play conservative on offense to limit the possibility of turn overs unless we find somewhere to expose, we will be young for sure.

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  • fearthau83 said...

    Atleast u make better sense than the first reply, we'll play conservative on offense to limit the possibility of turn overs unless we find somewhere to expose, we will be young for sure.

    so did UF, but eventually you have to take chances and we made UF pay for it.... you play conservative with a lead....

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  • fearthau83 said...
    , and the team that was one dimensional on both sides practically had ya beat last year.

    lmao

    no way you're a real person

    NTally Kingpin28520

  • Yeah, maybe I jumped the gun on saying it wont be a blow out but history proves otherwise for both teams in down years. So thats why I added percentages. Im not trying to make enemies, but good debate nonetheless. But yeah your offense can take off this year if all things click. Good luck guys, hipe that schedule comes soon

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  • If ur down u can take those chances sure, bur if its a close one u can play conservative pretty much if its a dead heat, but knowing fisch we wouldn't play conservative from the get go, he's not afraid to take some chances. This is all speculation ya know, im kinda dragging this out cause no one knows but we all have good insight and points of view

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  • Uf isnt Miami by the way. Lol, but u know that. Something wrong with that coach... He just dont seem right or good for that matter.

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  • Anyone who is not a miami fan know that the refs kept miami in that game.

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    duvalnole

  • fearthau83 said...

    If ur down u can take those chances sure, bur if its a close one u can play conservative pretty much if its a dead heat, but knowing fisch we wouldn't play conservative from the get go, he's not afraid to take some chances. This is all speculation ya know, im kinda dragging this out cause no one knows but we all have good insight and points of view

    UF wasn't down, they had to take chances, we picked it off 3 times..... both defenses were playing great, we scored on defense cause UF was trying to make plays offensively.... you don't have tp be down to take chances, and also you have to at least attempt to make things happen....

    if Fisch plays conservative then he and AG are expecting the defense to score.... or ST and without Travis or Lamar I am not to worried about the return game.....

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  • fearthau83 said...

    Uf isnt Miami by the way. Lol, but u know that. Something wrong with that coach... He just dont seem right or good for that matter.

    same can be said for AG and JF..... none of them have really proven much.....

    leta not act like UM is about to bust out cause of AG, as a fan you have to believe it will.... but nothing AG has done is any better than what WM has done

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  • FSUgoNoles24 said...

    if next years game isn't won by UM offense it might be like FSU/UF game this year, our defense is much better than UMs and will force turnovers..... UM will be ready for sure just not sure if they have all the pieces to win.... they are extremely young....

    Good input, as a UM fan I agree with you...right now no Cane fan is sure how we will do...it all depends on how our freshman and sophmores play

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    grogz26

  • fearthau83 said...

    Lol at 45 schollies, even 30... Lulz.. Good luck on the NC run again. But yeah ur right we'll be under .500 bexause we'll lose to duke, Bethune cookman, BC, GT, UVA, USF, KSU, ND. FSU, VT, UNC, and NC state...., FSU, UNC, VT, NC STATE AT HOME BC, DUKE, UVA, GT ON THE ROAD.... Ksu away, notre dame +neutral but truly away. Bethcookman home, so. Florida home.... Soo... Im thinking 8-4 or 7-5 but its possible for 9-3 best case senario.

    And 45 schollies based on whose reports? The NCAA or Yahoo?

    We will see if you are still lulz when the NCAA does to you what some one is doing to Nevin Shapiro right now. 40 plus scholarships over three years. Bank it. Walk ons starting. It will be glorious.

    Legio mihi nomen est, quia multi sumu [My name is Legion, for we are many.]

    Cuthbert

  • FSUgoNoles24 said...

    same can be said for AG and JF..... none of them have really proven much.....

    leta not act like UM is about to bust out cause of AG, as a fan you have to believe it will.... but nothing AG has done is any better than what WM has done

    Oh I understand what ur saying completely, and I know Ag hasn't lived up to bill in all facets but we see the direction we're headed as im sure u can too being as level headed as you are. Makes for good conversation. Jf did good esp. When u look back at his term with Minnesota...we were all worried, but the right players make the difference in ascheme. I hope we both are physical and evertone brings it, no snoozers with little heart like 2 years ago... That was so disappointing... I like it bettet when we're all on top of our game or atleast for that game.

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  • Cuthbert said...

    We will see if you are still lulz when the NCAA does to you what some one is doing to Nevin Shapiro right now. 40 plus scholarships over three years. Bank it. Walk ons starting. It will be glorious.

    Yeah 40... Why the reduction from 45 the other night.. Please give me a break... What's ur wager? Pay the other persons year membership for a year?

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    fearthau83

  • fearthau83 said...

    Oh I understand what ur saying completely, and I know Ag hasn't lived up to bill in all facets but we see the direction we're headed as im sure u can too being as level headed as you are. Makes for good conversation. Jf did good esp. When u look back at his term with Minnesota...we were all worried, but the right players make the difference in ascheme. I hope we both are physical and evertone brings it, no snoozers with little heart like 2 years ago... That was so disappointing... I like it bettet when we're all on top of our game or atleast for that game.

    you say you see the UM program moving into the right direction but yet don't acknowledge FSU movement and has been..... Fisher has FSU moving forward as well......

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