Unconquered

The SEC will go after V Tech first. New market for them. Not sure what Clemson would bring over FSU. We have a national footprint. Ga Tech brings little. After that maybe NC State for the N. Carolina market. Little else of value to SEC in the ACC. We need to start lobbying quickly.

We aren't going anywhere. I have no faith that Barron will do anything for athletics. Maryland based the decision on Athletics and Barron puts more emphasis on academics. Plus we have no one willing to take us at the present time.

FSUFAN, your becoming my favorite poster~!

Yep, Va. Tech and NC State have been the reported #15 and #16 teams for about a year now in SEC circles. Most of us would love to invite FSU, but Florida will absolutely not allow it. They, Georgia, and South Carolina made a pact years ago to vote against a second team in any existing SEC state (in other words, you, Ga. Tech, and Clemson). Mike Slive will not do anything as major as adding another school without existing SEC presidents' unanimous approval. This is also what prevented Oklahoma from coming to the SEC last year; they were a package deal with OK. State, and that did not serve the SEC's interests. The only double down they would accept would be Texas, but the Big 12 wrote a much better buyout than the ACC, apparently. It will be a dozen years before raiding the Big 12 is even an option.

If the Big 12 decides to make a southeastern statement and the ACC starts blowing up, they would be wise to invite you, Ga. Tech, Clemson, Duke, Miami, and Louisville to immediately go to 16. Those will be the best choices on the board and will bring a ton of TV markets. There is nothing more of value to the Big 12 by looking west.

Wow those additions would skyrocket value...

Those that leave the ACC and join the BIG, the BIG fronts the $50 mil for them and they pay back over several years out of their conference earnings.

So, the BIG is going to take 2 more teams I believe, I understand GaTech has approached the BIG, I'm hoping we get to 16 and leave Notre Dame out in the cold as the ACC crumbles.

As far as conferences go, I'd have no problem joining the Big 10 in football, but I'd prefer to join a Big12 with Clemson, GT and another team or two in the southwest for our non football travel budgets. But the money's still so much better than staying in the ACC that I wouldn't care.

I just want out. And the big 12, big 10 and the SEC all have their priorities in the right place while the ACC does not.

I'd want both the big 10 or 12 to change their names if we joined as I have a tough time joining a coalition of institutions of higher learning that cannot count.

Please take Missouri and Syracuse.

B1G administrators love it, fans hate it. Football just getting more diluted. Doesn't matter, though. It's happening.

FYI, Notre Dame has been a B1G target for decades, but even though we are now making more money per school than them, they have the boosters and brand to remain financially viable as an independent IF conferences like the ACC and the Big East before that continue to allow them as non-football members. As much as many B1G fans detest Notre Dame for repeatedly refusing to join the conference, they still wield too much power to afford to give up. Jim Delaney (B1G Commissioner), I think is actively doing everything he can to not only bring in more money/power to the conference, but I think ND is always the end-game and for this reason there is no way the B1G goes to 16 teams unless they are #15.

@beanoleKJ - The B1G hasn't been able to count for quite some time, please note that excluding Rutgers as I'm in denial and they haven't been officially announced yet, the B1G already has 14 schools. The University of Chicago was a founding member of the B1G and remains a member...academically at least.

Good luck to Florida State, hopefully your school leaders are proactive and get you into a power conference where you can continue to have success. Florida State has always been my favorite of the 3 Florida power schools and a large part was Bowden, but I like the higher of Jimbo Fisher as well...after this season I wish Iowa could've gotten him!