Unconquered

Ehh I just don't see the point in punishing the school in a way that affects people that had nothing to do with the crimes. Paterno is gone so he only way to pUnish him would be to take his wins and therefore his legacy. Sandusky is already being tried in a criminal case so he will be too. I would just punish anyone at the university in the know about this that can be proven. Some kid that wanted to be a Nittany Lion since he was 5 or the new coaches hired from outside the program shouldn't be the ones effected by sanctions and scholarship losses. Fire and incarcerate all administrators and coaches that knew and then "tabula rasa" .

Penn State facing loss of bowl/s and scholarships, but not so-called death penalty per Joe Shadd

If I am the NCAA I admit this is basically outside of our general parameters and therefore the punishment honestly does not fit the crime AT ALL but then take away their next two bowl games and take away 10 schollies for each of next 2 years.

So you wouldn't punish anyone? Paterno's dead. Sandusky's incarcerated. The President resigned/was fired.

If you don't punish them for this, what's to prevent other universities from ignoring their ethical and legal responsibilities for the betterment of their football programs?

That's the case with most, if not all sanctions though. Look at Miami, Shapiro's gone, Shannon is gone, the player who were involved are gone, but they are still going to get hammered. It's the same thing with USC and Reggie Bush situation. Sure, it's unfair to the current crop of kids, but don't those school still deserve to be penalized for their actions? Personally, I don't think the death penalty is the proper punishment. I do think their program should be shutdown for 1 year (Maybe that will knock some sense into their delusional fan base) and possibly (If the NCAA has jurisdiction) require PSU to give monetary support to awareness/victims of sexual abuse.

If the NCAA throws in a provision the PSU players can transfer without losing a year of eligibility then there little harm to the kid and no way they could sue.

Sure a kid who's lifelong dream it was to Play at PSU will be upset, but with these crimes and the universities years of covering them up, that dream is a nightmare anyway.

Just plain business, I'd allow any team taking a PSU player up to two extra scholarships (only two to stop the penn state team just transferrin together and making Rutgers a top 10 squad) for the duration of those kids's eligibility.

I think Bradley needs to go as well. That will break all ties to Paterno.

Charles Robinson: "multiple bowls, crippling scholarship losses"

Yes but they didn't or wont get the death penalty. I'm talking as if PSU will get it.

I don't think there's any realistic shot of them kicking Penn State out of the Big Ten. They may further punish them somehow with conference-specific penalties but I doubt they are going to kick them out, drop to 11 and give up the Big Ten CG that is only 1-year old.

Maybe its just me, but I HATE the manner in which the NCAA is getting involved here. They are bypassing all of their own processes and precedents (which were inconsistent at best to begin with) in order to hand out severe penalties for a situation which has yet to even be fully played out. There are still at least the trials for Curley and Shultz and all the civil trials and the associated discovery period for each. There may be additional evidence that would warrant a death penalty. Why are they in such a rush, just a week after the Freeh report, to hand out these penalties? How long did it take them at USC? How long is still going to take at Miami?

Another issue is the fact that I don't understand what actual NCAA bylaws has PSU violated? I keep seeing "lack of institutional control" being cited. But that penalty has always been reserved for a series of NCAA infractions, not criminal negligence and perjury. I understand this is a (hopefully) once in a lifetime situation, but should there be some sort of guidelines for what the NCAA can and can't get involved with?

That's really the biggest issue for me - this now sets a new precedent which allows the NCAA to hand out penalties on a whim. They've bypassed their own already incredibly inconsistent processes and precedents in order to rush out a severe set of penalties, and everyone seems to be cheering them on. I know this is an extraordinary circumstance, but what's to stop them from calling any scandal an "extraordinary circumstance" in the future? This is a power grab by the NCAA, whether you guys can see it or not, and I despise giving that organization any more power than they already have.

Oh yeah, entirely reasonable. What's the current count on scholarships per child raped? Should be 1 scholarship list per year for every count of rape for 3 years, right?

What a joke. Either don't get involved, or ban them for 1-3 years. Suddenly child rape isn't as bad as paying players (SMU) according to Emmert.