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Nole of 16 said...
Lol don't be delusional.
Getting a person on campus is the MOST important step in recruiting. Especially for a Official Visit.
I guess Ole Miss with their 14 consecutive losses to SEC teams really impressed kids like Golson and Tunsil.
They definitely had zero shots at them by your logic.
USF has been decent in the past but this guy was able to get ELITE talent to visit them just because of his ability to create relationships.
Scott>Seider IMO
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fsukum said...
How does one get his "ass kicked" when he may not have even been a serious target?
I don't get this line of thinking. As stated above, this is just another thread for Fisher's detractors to complain in.
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Not sure how he can't be, or couldn't have been a serious target for JImbo. I think that is where you are going to find the pushback on this.
FSU needs 2 offensive position coaches right now. It's obvious the OC position isn't available and we have Sanders, Trickett, and Dawsey on staff. That means you need a TE/QB coach and you could move Sanders to either of those is you wanted to.
So we are left with 2 positions that need to fill either RB/TE/QB.
FSU just lost it's ace recruiter, it's 2nd best recruiter, and it's 3rd best recruiter too. Just to put those on paper: Craig, Coley, Gran. All of those guys at one point at least had a hand in a SoFla recruit from time to time.
Is it really that hard to follow a line of thinking that jumps to the conclusion that FSU could benefit from a recruiter who is a pretty good position coach with South Florida ties? I'm not sure how it would be, but maybe it is.
"Fisher detractors" is an interesting catch-all. It almost sounds as if he has earned the right to make his own terms, or as if he has a statue outside the stadium or something. Not sure I follow that line of thinking at all.
Jimbo Fisher has done an excellent job at remodeling a sleeping giant. He has excelled at creating infrastructure where it was severely lacking and put the ball in motion on several projects that were holding FSU back.
He may or may not be the right man for the long term job, but I think at this point it is certainly warranted to question his abilities from time to time without annointing him the King just yet.
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FSUgoNoles24 said...
Did I say they pulled his scholarship
No I said they didn't recruit him after decommitting. It was said he had a window to get back on board, it passed and FSU moved on
Both Bain and Senat became an after thought
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Nole of 16 said...
A member of USF's original recruiting class in February 1996, Larry Scott returned to USF in 2005 as director of high school operations, before first moving into coaching as a graduate assistant in 2006 and later as the tight ends coach, a position he accepted on Jan. 23, 2007.
Scott coached the tight ends in 2008 before switching to the offensive line in 2009. Scott returned to the tight ends in his sixth year with the program in 2010 and took over as running backs coach in 2012.
In his return to the tight end position, Scott and his group helped USF to its fifth-straight eight-win season, making it one of only 15 programs nationally and one of just 10 in BCS leagues that had accomplished the feat.
The offense saw tremendous improvement in 2011 as USF improved its national ranking in total offense 75 spots from 2010 to 2011, the largest jump of any school in the country. The most dramatic improvement came in the passing game, where USF improved by 85 yards per game. Only two teams saw a greater jump in the passing offense national rankings, as the Bulls improved 59 spots. In addition, the Bulls finished first in the BIG EAST in rushing and sacks allowed.
As the offensive line coach, Scott helped mentor center Sampson Genus to a second-team All-BIG EAST honor in 2009 as voted on by the coaches. Florida State defensive coordinator Mickey Andrews called Genus the best center they had seen all season.
In addition, redshirt freshman tackle Mark Popek was named Freshman All-America by both Sporting News and ESPN, while guard Zach Hermann earned third-team honors by Phil Steele.
A unit that had to replace a lot of experience lost from the 2008 team, the 2009 offensive line turned out to be one of the team's strengths after facing question marks across the line coming into fall practice.
In his first full season, USF saw the development of Cedric Hill into one of the most feared tight ends in the BIG EAST. He continued to help the offense and his position group excel in 2008. Hill earned second-team All-BIG EAST honors, while Ben Busbee stepped into a prominent role alongside Hill.
Where Scott has made arguably the biggest impact on USF is in recruiting. His work in Miami and throughout Dade and Broward counties has helped USF reel in a string of highly-regarded classes. In fact, many considered the 2008 class among the best in program history. Then, Scott and the entire coaching staff went out and signed a 2009 class that was ranked as high as No. 21 nationally and was praised again as the best in program history.
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Is it really that hard to follow a line of thinking that jumps to the conclusion that FSU could benefit from a recruiter who is a pretty good position coach with South Florida ties? I'm not sure how it would be, but maybe it is.
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fsukum said...
Is it really hard to believe that Fisher simply may not have wanted this guy on the staff and feels differently from some on this board about his coaching and recruiting abilities? This entire thread is based on the rumor that Fisher extended an offer to interview. Even if he had interviewed, who is to say he would have been offered the job? Johnson interviewed and was not offered the job.
People are simply overreacting in this thread. This thread is a result of build up frustration of our 2 losses, coaching losses, loss to UF, loss of Coley to a rival etc. It's just another avenue for people to voice their frustration with the last 3 months of FSU football.
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Is it really hard to believe that Fisher simply may not have wanted this guy on the staff and feels differently from some on this board about his coaching and recruiting abilities? This entire thread is based on the rumor that Fisher extended an offer to interview. Even if he had interviewed, who is to say he would have been offered the job? Johnson interviewed and was not offered the job.
People are simply overreacting in this thread. This thread is a result of built up frustration over our 2 losses, our coaching losses, our loss to UF, the loss of Coley to a rival, etc. It's just another avenue for people to voice their frustration over the last 3 months of FSU football.
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