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Jacob Coker

  • I know it's a little early, but does he have a legit shot at serving as backup QB (2nd or 3rd) instead of redshirting? He is big! Somehow see him at least being a better option to manage the game than Trickett. I seriously think Trickett could get hurt out there.

    PTCnole

  • I just don't see Secord ever getting any PT and with Trickett only weighing 120lbs, I'm guessing if Coker can grasp the mental part, he'll shoot up the DC and is planted squarely in the #2 spot half way thru the season. Based solely on my gut...no inside scoop.

    warface bass

  • Well Coker will be 3rd string at minimum IMO. That doesn't necessarily mean he will give up a redshirt though.

    Trickett has a better grasp of the offense at this point on sheer experience but I think it will be a close battle after EJ graduates.

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    healthguyfsu

  • Assuming that Trickett comes in for mop up duty in weeks 1 and 2, I think that will give all of us some indication of whether will see him under center in meaningful game time.

    Agree that Coker is already probably #3 in line, but like healthguy said, that doesn't mean he'll play this year and burn his shirt. Hopefully we don't have to find out the answer to that question and EJ has a full, healthy season.

    FSULaura

  • What are the rules on RSing? Do they have to declare ahead of time or simply if they never play a down declare before end of season? I just know that on NCAA11, I have to declare them before start of season.

    PTCnole

  • PTCnole said...

    What are the rules on RSing? Do they have to declare ahead of time or simply if they never play a down declare before end of season? I just know that on NCAA11, I have to declare them before start of season.

    Never play a down. Actually, you can play but if hurt early in the season you can take a med RS (applied for only if extra eligibility is needed later).

    If there is some kind of declaration it is bogus. I would declare every single player for a redshirt because I know you can always burn it even if you had wanted to initially RS them.

    This post was edited by healthguyfsu on 8/9/2011 at 11:14 AM

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  • I can almost say he IS redshirting. Trick is second, that won't be changing. The coaches don't feel the way most of you do about Secord. He is a lefty and as most of you know, a lefty has the ability to provide an advantage. He is third and just like Trickett he completely knows the playbook. The extra year will be very valuable to Coker.

    erienole

  • Definitely see him redshirting this year unless something happens to EJ, don't see a reason to burn up a year if we don't need him to to play right away

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    seminoles_04

  • erienole said...

    I can almost say he IS redshirting. Trick is second, that won't be changing. The coaches don't feel the way most of you do about Secord. He is a lefty and as most of you know, a lefty has the ability to provide an advantage. He is third and just like Trickett he completely knows the playbook. The extra year will be very valuable to Coker.

    Agreed that he will redshirt but I can promise you the coaches don't actually believe that Secord can play here. I don't care what they've told you. He's not a viable option as a QB on this team. If it came down to he or Coker, Coker would get the nod easily.

    I don't need to talk to any coach to know this, it's easy to see and know coach talk.

    oline0175

  • seminoles_04 said...

    Definitely see him redshirting this year unless something happens to EJ, don't see a reason to burn up a year if we don't need him to to play right away

    this... if EJ gets hurt then the I think Coker will be, depending on the timing, the most capable if he can get the playbook down... as far as I have heard Coker is a great student and shouldn't have a problem learning the playbook.... Bottom line though is that we are screwed if EJ goes down.. no other way to slice it.

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    SmokinJoeP

  • Secord has no future here. I think the majority of us know this. I don't care what coaches say. If Trickett could put on weight, keep it on, I actually would be confident in him as our starter down the road. Like erie said, he knows the pbook inside and out like Ponder did. What most people don't know is that he has the best arm on the team. That little fella can sling the ball around like a 6'5, 230-pound quarterback.

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    BushidoNole

  • BushidoNole said...

    Secord has no future here. I think the majority of us know this. I don't care what coaches say. If Trickett could put on weight, keep it on, I actually would be confident in him as our starter down the road. Like erie said, he knows the pbook inside and out like Ponder did. What most people don't know is that he has the best arm on the team. That little fella can sling the ball around like a 6'5, 230-pound quarterback.

    yep these 2 things are the only reasons why im fairly confident he can succeed, even with his extremely unfavorable size.

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    chetdawg

  • IMO by next summer, Coker will battle Trickett to become the successor to EJ.
    This summer Trickett has the #2 locked down.

    Crappy Davenpot

  • I think Coker will challenge for the No. 2 spot, but it'd be best to give him a year to learn the playbook without being expected to play.

    Trickett said as much this spring. He prepared - and could have played last year - but it was overwhelming to digest Fisher's playbook.

    I'd be stunned if Trickett were not the No. 2 QB. He should see significant second-half playing time the first two games.

    I covered a bunch of North Florida Christian games when Trickett was playing. There was one year when he had a bunch of seniors on the OL, and he wasn't pressured as much. And then another year when NFC didn't have a good OL. Trickett showed me he could throw with accuracy from the pocket or on a rollout to his right (honestly don't remember him rolling left too much, but I'm sure he can/will).

    Bob Ferrante

  • Why waste a year of eligibility if EJ is healthy

    rms02d

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    WillyDees

  • BushidoNole said...

    What most people don't know is that he has the best arm on the team. That little fella can sling the ball around like a 6'5, 230-pound quarterback.

    Easy big fella... Kid can throw alright but he does not have the best arm on the team.

    oline0175

  • erienole said...

    I can almost say he IS redshirting. Trick is second, that won't be changing. The coaches don't feel the way most of you do about Secord. He is a lefty and as most of you know, a lefty has the ability to provide an advantage. He is third and just like Trickett he completely knows the playbook. The extra year will be very valuable to Coker.

    How does a lefty provide an advantage? Basketball: unexpected release point keeps from getting shot blocked. Pitcher: well discussed/known.

    Quarterback?

    fsufsu

  • fsufsu said...

    How does a lefty provide an advantage? Basketball: unexpected release point keeps from getting shot blocked. Pitcher: well discussed/known.

    Quarterback?

    Everything is opposite. Has a different blindside. Throws off the other shoulder etc.

    I don't know how long that advantage lasts but it is a conferred advantage.

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  • oline0175 said...

    Easy big fella... Kid can throw alright but he does not have the best arm on the team.

    Yes he does, I know it's hard to swallow...

    I didn't believe it at first either when a receiver told me that, but then I saw it with my own eyes in warmup's. Trickett has a cyborg arm attached to his little body, makes no sense.

    He's not Brett Favre, but I think people on our site overrate the strength of EJ's arm too, so....It's just something you have to see in person, not on TV.

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  • healthguyfsu said...

    Everything is opposite. Has a different blindside. Throws off the other shoulder etc.

    I don't know how long that advantage lasts but it is a conferred advantage.

    The first thing you listed is a complication, not an advantage.

    The second is simply duh material but has no added value.

    Just saying.

    fsufsu