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  • Im a canes fan and Im just curious what your guys thoughts on Trickett are? He seems to have a great arm and personally I think he outplays Manuel. Even last season it was obvious the kid could play... Anyways just looking for honest evaluations and what you guys think if there will be a real QB Competition. Look forward to seeing you guys on the field.

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  • He has a gun slinger mentality, knows the playbook better than EJ, and has that confident moxy about him. Some people don't like him because he's 6'2", 180 pounds, or because they just have their own personal favorites. I think he can be a successful quarterback for us in 2013, assuming he can get around 190-200 on his 6'2" frame.

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  • I think he's a gunslinger and looked way more comfortable to me out there than EJ did. He wasn't fazed last year at all against Oklahoma or Clemson, but was extremely rattled against Wake Forest. That being said he still has to get much bigger, but I think a lot of people on here underestimate him. Once EJ is gone I fully expect him to be the starter.

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  • scott_chritton said...

    Im a canes fan and Im just curious what your guys thoughts on Trickett are? He seems to have a great arm and personally I think he outplays Manuel. Even last season it was obvious the kid could play... Anyways just looking for honest evaluations and what you guys think if there will be a real QB Competition. Look forward to seeing you guys on the field.

    Trickett's arm and understanding of the game are excellent. I worry about his mobility and escapability - it was exposed vs. Wake last year and Telvin could have killed him yeserday but eased up.

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  • Any of you guys think he could take out Manuel for the QB-1 position?

    scott_chritton

  • EJ, Coker, Winston, and probably Mcguire are all better, It will be either Coker or Winston as the starter next year.

    gonoles1

  • scott_chritton said...

    Any of you guys think he could take out Manuel for the QB-1 position?

    Not a chance

    gonoles1

  • scott_chritton said...

    Any of you guys think he could take out Manuel for the QB-1 position?

    I do. He won't be able to run like EJ, but with his superior passing skills and field generalship, he won't have to.

    Don't get me wrong, I like and respect EJ, and as long as he's Jimbo's #1 QB, I'm gonna pull for him with all I got.

    Now. That doesn't keep me from observing his in game action in as an objective a manner as possible. EJ is a somewhat flawed IMO winner, but I'm just a bit skeptical regarding how he can do against a really strong - MNC caliber D, like Bammer or LSU.

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  • Nashnole said...

    I do. He won't be able to run like EJ, but with his superior passing skills and field generalship, he won't have to.

    Don't get me wrong, I like and respect EJ, and as long as he's Jimbo's #1 QB, I'm gonna pull for him with all I got.

    Now. That doesn't keep me from observing his in game action in as an objective a manner as possible. EJ is a somewhat flawed IMO winner, but I'm just a bit skeptical regarding how he can do against a really strong - MNC caliber D, like Bammer or LSU.

    He might as well start. It's not like Fisher is in any hurry to utilize EJs legs like he should. He is adament on being a passing team and EJ isn't our best option for that.

    fsukum

  • I like Coker he has a better arm, he's bigger, he can also move if the pocket does collapse, and he went 8-11 yesterday with 30 yards less then trickett and 70 of tricketts came on a blown coverage and DB's falling down

    StevenM1

  • scott_chritton said...

    Im a canes fan and Im just curious what your guys thoughts on Trickett are? He seems to have a great arm and personally I think he outplays Manuel. Even last season it was obvious the kid could play... Anyways just looking for honest evaluations and what you guys think if there will be a real QB Competition. Look forward to seeing you guys on the field.

    I prefer Trickett in our offense but a lot of people don't like him because of his body. I'm not really into evaluating people based on what they look like. I just don't see us winning with EJ unless Fishy ran a spread offense. EJ would have been great in a spread. I think Trickett should be our starter but he won't be.

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  • fsukum said...

    He might as well start. It's not like Fisher is in any hurry to utilize EJs legs like he should. He is adament on being a passing team and EJ isn't our best option for that.

    Dude. I respect your opinions as much as anyone on here. You may be onto something there imo.

    This post was edited by Nashnole on 4/15/2012 at 3:28 PM

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  • Perosnally, I think the second Jameis Winston steps on campus, he's the most talented QB on the roster. That doesn't, however, mean he's ready for live action right away. I think if he were to suck it up and take a RS this year, and really indulge in the playbook, he will have the opportunity to compete for the starting position in 2013. He has all the tools and the talent, he's a smart kid, and an incredibly athletic QB.

    I think Winston is FSU's first Heisman winner since Weinke.

    ALSO, I think the reason you see Jimbo continue to try and develop EJ as a passer, is that:

    1) EJ wants a chance to play in the NFL. The NFL is a passing league, and in order to get anywhere, he's going to have to improve on his reads in the middle of the field, and his accuracy.

    2) Fisher has put CP7 in the league as a first round pick. If he can continue to churn out NFL draft picks at the QB position, we won't have to worry about recruiting, because it will take care of itself.

    This post was edited by Bejnay on 4/15/2012 at 3:31 PM

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  • fsukum said...

    He might as well start. It's not like Fisher is in any hurry to utilize EJs legs like he should. He is adament on being a passing team and EJ isn't our best option for that.

    That is how I feel too. If you want to run a Pro-Style offense, recruit and play pocket passers. Look at the guys we've picked up. Honestly, Winston isn't going to be used to his full potential in our offense either.

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  • He's the back up QB. People need to rest the whole Trickett ordeal. EJ went against three NFL Db's yesterday: Reid, Joyner and Brooks, while Trickett went against guys trying to solidly depth. That pass to Dent would not have happened had it been Reid with Brooks or Joyner back there.

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  • 4th&1 said...

    He's the back up QB. People need to rest the whole Trickett ordeal. EJ went against three NFL Db's yesterday: Reid, Joyner and Brooks, while Trickett went against guys trying to solidly depth. That pass to Dent would not have happened had it been Reid with Brooks or Joyner back there.

    Are you suggesting that EJ doesn't make poor decisions? I don't count yesterdays game as anything. I just feel that our offense is based primarily on your ability to read defenses and EJ does a poor job of doing that. Athletically, he is the better QB but I just don't see him becoming a pocket passer. And going against NFL level DBs isn't an excuse if your goal is to be an NFL QB. That excuse will not win him a Heisman or any other awards for that matter. And it definitely won't get us a ship.

    This post was edited by FSUTrackLoveFSU on 4/15/2012 at 3:48 PM

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  • it doesn't matter

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  • I try to back EJ as much as possible because I honestly believe he has been a victim of an offense that is not best suited for him. He does show flashes of greatness with some of his throws, but at other times it looks like he has a completely different arm. Confidence is something he struggles with, which is huge at the QB position. That said, it seems Trickett has all of the things EJ lacks, subtract the size.

    Either way, like another poster said, it doesn't
    matter. EJ is our starter, and will be the entire season, barring injury. The sad thing is, Trickett might not ever start for us with Coker seemingly doing all the right things.

    NOLE_MERCY

  • Back up QB is always better than the starter. Been going on at FSU for twelve years now.

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  • even longer than that

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  • NOLE_MERCY said...

    I try to back EJ as much as possible because I honestly believe he has been a victim of an offense that is not best suited for him. He does show flashes of greatness with some of his throws, but at other times it looks like he has a completely different arm. Confidence is something he struggles with, which is huge at the QB position. That said, it seems Trickett has all of the things EJ lacks, subtract the size.

    Either way, like another poster said, it doesn't matter. EJ is our starter, and will be the entire season, barring injury. The sad thing is, Trickett might not ever start for us with Coker seemingly doing all the right things.

    Yep that's pretty much my same feeling. I mean me and EJ are cool, not great friends but like he is a decent person to be around when he trying to have fun. So, I really wish he was the answer, but he just isn't going to do well with this offense. If you want a running QB to be at his best you have to spread the OL more and give him room to use his legs. EJ is a great athlete and I feel using him in an offense that caters to him would be better for the OL problems anyway because its easier to block in that type of setup. Ej(Spread)>Trickett(Pro)>EJ(Pro). IMO

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  • o-town nole said...

    Back up QB is always better than the starter. Been going on at FSU for twelve years now.

    +1 to this

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  • EJ will be the starter all season baring injury. that being said if EJ continues to look shaky with his reads and passes over the middle don't think for a second Jimbo won't take advantage of his legs. Even last year when EJ was hurt and we were leading blowout games like Boston college Jimbo was running EJ.

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  • o-town nole said...

    Back up QB is always better than the starter. Been going on at FSU for twelve years now.

    Truth.

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  • I can promise you the last thing Jimbo wants to be is a passing team, the passing game was just all we had, Jimbo wants to run the ball and eat up clock and wear people down.

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