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I would not be surprised to see Miami stay in the ACC after the athletic dept crapped the bed yet again to tarnish the University image. They might have a tougher time now than FSU and Clemson will in convincing the Academic side that the move is needed.

They also have a large alumni base in the Northeast which is why the Big East was such a good fit until they were forced to move or get left behind in a gutted conference. The Big 12 has no presence in the NY/Boston market.

Hate it for you guys ! You guys were a power for a long time but in all honesty the acc has sucked the life out of you. Im still not sure why you guys did not jump at the chance to join the southeastern conference when you could have.

pben,

Using chuck oliver "The king" (at least in his own mind) of college football as a source? I am still waiting for his 2 premier UF wr's to actually get on the field. I know chuck, they were soooooooooo deep at wr last year.

He is mildy entertaining in his lack of analysis. an analyst's contest between The King and a sand gnat would be a competitive contest.

Chuck Oliver's analysis and $3.00 is worth $3.00.

you get my point.

At the end of the day, whether we win or not we still get ratings, as you already posted

Even if we were a national power this contract would still suck b/c it would still be South of 20 million. The difference would be our tier 3 rights. FWIW, Ithink OU gets arounf 5 million on OKLA for tis tier 3 rights. I suspect we could do a little better in a state with 19 million.

Should we go? Not sure. We will ro won't be good regardless of the conference affiliation.

However, those of you who thik the faculty senate can block a move need to put down the bottle. Hell, Mizzou went to the SEc and no one in its adm wanted to go to the SEC.

Wrong. The UT AD Dodds just came out saying as many as 3 UT football games could be on the LHN this fall.

Pben, please let us know how FSU will stay competitive with teams from the SEC and at the same time resolve the $2.4 million deficit with pending athletic budget cuts. For the sake of our university will have to explore all options.

Go Noles!!!

We are not on equal footing "right now" with LSU and 'Bama, thats it.

I would say on a neutral field we are "even" with UGA and USCjr, hell we may even be a slight favorite, and the rest we can beat I have no doubt.

I am not buying this 3rd tier thing at all. Because Kansas can sell hoops games and Texas can sell anything with their brand, does not mean FSU is netting 5-8mill, and I doubt UT is going to start sharing, I don't care what a bunch of internet message board gurus say, that just ain't computing.

BTW who is paying our buyout? the B12 is loaning WVU part of it, so where do you think WVU is paying that back out of? The TV deal, that is where.

We need to get hard numbers that aren't just pulled out of cyberspace's ass, before we can intelligently discuss this.

Ask your Addidas buddies if Addidas is paying our ACC buyout for us.

Great reply. Makes no sense like most of your posts in the thread.

Theoretically couldn't the B12 loan FSU the money and FSU pay it back and STILL make millions more than what the ACC will pay out next year? or for the next 9 years?

I know you love to stir the pot, so carry on...

Its on the internet so it must be true

I agree FSU needs to do it's due diligence here on both what the ACC and Big 12 can offer but I just don't like Barron simply shutting down the option.

As a first time President with a backround in science I think he would be more open to investigation before making a decision.

Here's another question? Let's say we stay and fall behing uf. How long before we start to lose enrollment numbers. It isn't a coincidence that big time football programs have more people want to enroll than ones that arent .

Guys, I'm willing to bet that nobody here KNOWS anything. We are all speculating and going off of speculation we have heard from others. Please keep that in mind. No reason that the discussion can't continue, but the board is going downhill fast.