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Gus Edwards is ready for trip to FSU (FILM ROOM included)

  • http://floridastate.247sports.com/Article/Gus-Edwards-talks-about-his-upcoming-official-visit-to-FSU-111779

    Staten Island (NY) Tottenville running back Gus Edwards will take an official visit to Florida State this weekend, due in part to the efforts of FSU assistant James Coley.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Tom Loy on 1/16/2013 at 8:36 PM

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  • Staten Island (NY) Tottenville running back Gus Edwards is a tough, physical back that can wear a team down throughout a game.

    The 6-foot-1, 220-pound Syracuse commitment will take his official visit to Florida State this weekend. Here is a breakdown of his senior film.

    Strengths

    Ball Security:
    Edwards rarely puts the ball on the turf. During his entire senior season, Edwards fumbled only twice and he recovered one of them. There is nothing more frustrating to a coach than a turnover and the fact that you can trust Edwards with the football is a major plus.

    Vision and Patience:
    When breaking down his senior film, it is very evident that Edwards can see the field well. He keeps the ball high and tight, takes short, choppy steps and then once the play develops, he bursts through the hole.

    Quicker than Fast:
    There are multiple instances throughout his senior highlight tape that clearly show his acceleration. Continuing on from the above comment regarding his patience and vision, Edwards has a second gear. When taking a stretch play to the outside, it’s clear that Edwards moves at 80%, then once the play develops and the hole opens up, he takes it to that next level. That is one of those things that can’t always be taught and it’s good to show that at this level.

    Areas For Improvement

    Speed:
    Edwards is not a blazer. He doesn’t have the elite speed possessed by Ryan Green, Alex Collins or even Derrick Green. He needs to continue to work on that when he gets in his strength and conditioning program. He doesn’t carry bad weight and it’s not as though he is out of shape, but it’s simply a case where speed drills will improve that with him over time, as every bit counts.

    Leg Strength:
    Edwards is very solid up top, but he needs to continue improving his lower body strength. Again, that is something that will be developed in a collegiate weight room. He is not James Wilder at this point. He runs very hard, but by adding that additional strength in his legs, he will be able to break even more tackles than he already does.

    NFL Comparison: Thurman Thomas
    While watching Edwards on film, Thomas kept popping into my head. They both have that wild, reckless running style and are both similar in stature. I’m not at all saying that Edwards is a future All-Pro. I’m strictly looking at running style and who he looks like on film. When Thomas carried the football, there was nothing silky-smooth about his game. He loved contact, had a second gear to get through the hole and lacked elite speed. Those are all similar traits that Edwards currently possesses.

    Senior Film: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-tMT8TdXBk

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  • Tom Loy said...

    http://floridastate.247sports.com/Article/Gus-Edwards-talks-about-his-upcoming-official-visit-to-FSU-111779

    Staten Island (NY) Tottenville running back Gus Edwards will take an official visit to Florida State this weekend, due in part to the efforts of FSU assistant James Coley.

    Is he ours if we push hard enough?

    Love having a bruiser on this team, but not convinced we're dedicated enough to the running game to fully realize a bruisers potential. Jimbo is a Chris Thompson guy...not a James Wilder guy...IMHO...

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  • Tom, since Edwards says he's solid to Syracuse, what are FSU's chances here?

    Seminole734

  • Hey Tom did you mean to say he will visit Miami on Feb 1st.

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    Redzulu

  • To the untrained eye(me) his tape doesn't look to bad at all. Says he weighs less than Dfree and/or Collins. Not sure about the power back title.

    This post was edited by OcalNole on 1/16/2013 at 8:41 PM

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  • Redzulu said...

    Hey Tom did you mean to say he will visit Miami on Feb 1st.

    Nope. He's delaying his announcement for an entire year, then taking a trip to Miami lol.

    Yeah man. Thanks for the heads up. It's been a long day. Bashing Swarbrick from ND all evening got me worked up haha.

    This post was edited by Tom Loy on 1/16/2013 at 8:49 PM

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  • Tom Loy said...

    It's been a long day. Bashing the Swarbrick from ND all evening got me worked up haha.

    Is that what you kids call cleaning the pipes these days?

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  • crw04d said...

    Is that what you kids call cleaning the pipes these days?

    Literally in tears right lol. Well done my friend.

    I need to stop typing on the computer for the night.

    Good day, my friends.

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  • Seminole734 said...

    Tom, since Edwards says he's solid to Syracuse, what are FSU's chances here?

    Committed prospects usually say they are solid to their schools. He's visiting 3 schools, so he's clearly open to looking around. Plus the loss of his head coach to the NFL isn't something a player likes to see.

    FSU will definitely give him something to think about this weekend.

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  • Spoke to my friends little brother who goes to school who is friends with effort. When I spoke to him a couple months ago he said that Edwards was solid to Syracuse. In my most recent conversation with him since Syracuse losing their head coach, Edwards is now really high on FSU. Only thing is he said he doesn't want to be a FB. I told my friends brother to show Edwards Lonnie Pryors highlight reel and see if he still doesn't want to be a FB in this system.

    Take this for what it's worth.

    FSU310

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    ESS2011

  • I hope it is okay to link to other site. There's also something from Tomahawk Nation about zone running.

    http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2010/6/25/1514321/rufios-playbook-zone-blocking-in

    We ran outside zone out of shotgun a LOT last year. I am no expert and have not reviewed tape, but I think we have added some power running, but our scheme is still heavy zone.

    Tom highlighted his vision and his patience...reading his analysis first may have colored my impression, but these qualities stick out. That is crucial in our running scheme. One cut and hit the hole. If you watch the tape (there's a seven minute one on youtube), that is EXACTLY what this kid does. He's not the fastest, the biggest (lower body is smaller, you're right Tom), or even the smoothest, but he finds a hole and hits it hard. I am definitely concerned about the level of competition, but it is undeniable that he has very, very good vision and that is a crucial element in succeeding in our system.

    This is why we don't want dancers like Antone Smith. Think about the Shanahan type backs and what they did well. None of them (except Portis) had elite speed. Some had good acceleration, I guess. But they all had elite vision and knew how to hit the hole. Alfred Morris (Skins RB) seems like a weird fit for a zone scheme, but he works very well. Sort of similar to Mike Anderson. He's bigger and has zero top-end speed, but he hits the hole hard, and has VERY good vision and patience (the pattern...think Terrell Davis, too). Gets some yards after contact, too.

    Chris Thompson was so effective in our zone scheme this year because he could make that cut so quickly...and accelerate immediately off that cut. It was incredible to watch. COMPLETELY different approach to what Morris, for instance, does, but it works.

    Sorry for the long post. In conclusion, I think Edwards could be an interesting fit for us. A good take, IMO, even if he's coming in as an RB.

    I think we play more two TE instead of trying to find someone to play in the Lonnie role. Best blocker with NOL. Is that Haplea right now?

    This post was edited by andy88c on 1/16/2013 at 10:03 PM

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  • Tom, you are funny get some rest Nole.

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    Redzulu

  • It would take quite a bit of bulk to get him to look like Dayne, but watching their highlights back-to-back, the kid really does run a lot like him. He's patient and let's things develop, as Tom said, and then he just goes. He doesn't have the speed to break away in the secondary at the next level, but you don't always need to hit home runs.

    No problem hitting consistant singles, with a few dubs and trips thrown in for good measure. I just hope Edwards comes here, hits the gym HARD, and becomes a bruiser for us.

    Bejnay

  • IMO he runs like yeldon, not sure the level of speed but he definitely has a 2nd gear, runs hard and has good vision.

    WartimesLegend

  • FSU NUT said...

    Is he ours if we push hard enough?

    Love having a bruiser on this team, but not convinced we're dedicated enough to the running game to fully realize a bruisers potential. Jimbo is a Chris Thompson guy...not a James Wilder guy...IMHO...

    Well that should be good for Bracy and Whitfield, hopefully they have CT's field vision. James wasn't used much after CT went down i believe because he had some nagging injuries and we were short on depth so Jimbo fed Lonnie more. Another good season in the weight room for JWJr and he should be more of a every down back, durable wise game to game, if you look at college football it is only a few teams who use a feature back 85%-90% of a game.

    WartimesLegend

  • By the way, I want to add that Edwards' senior film is currently being evaluated by 247sports. I'm curious to see what our national guys think of him.

    Ranking as of today:

    247sports ranking:
    Ranking of 87, is listed outside of the Top247, is the No. 37 RB in the country and is the No. 5 player in New York.

    247composite ranking:
    86, No. 668 player nationally, is the No. 43 RB in the country and the No. 4 player in New York

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  • NFL Comparison: Thurman Thomas? Ok. Sign him up.

    napoleon

  • WartimesLegend said...

    Well that should be good for Bracy and Whitfield, hopefully they have CT's field vision. James wasn't used much after CT went down i believe because he had some nagging injuries and we were short on depth so Jimbo fed Lonnie more. Another good season in the weight room for JWJr and he should be more of a every down back, durable wise game to game, if you look at college football it is only a few teams who use a feature back 85%-90% of a game.

    Weight room for James WIlder? uh...for what?, That dude is so ripped its crazy and was that way coming out of high school. He hurt his shoulder on a leaping pass on the sideline against I think Duke and never recovered, he played hurt Im sure the rest of the year.

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  • napoleon said...

    NFL Comparison: Thurman Thomas? Ok. Sign him up.

    Definitely just my opinion, but I couldn't get over the similarties in them on the field.

    Anyone jump out for you?

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  • Tom Loy said...

    Definitely just my opinion, but I couldn't get over the similarties in them on the field.

    Anyone jump out for you?

    Jacob Coker; next Tom Brady.

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  • SteveIsTall said...

    Jacob Coker; next Tom Brady.

    lol

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  • I feel that almost all of our backs are built for that role except Wilder. Sometimes Freeman misses holes too, but his field vision once he gets to a hole is his better strength. Pender, Green, and even Edwards fit the role as vision backs to the T.

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    chetdawg

  • Anyone have any insight on what level of competition he faces week in and week out?

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