Unconquered

And Maryland doesn't provide a nearby rival for WVU? College Park is closer to Morgantown than Louisville and I feel confident in saying more WVU fans live in the DMV area than the Louisville area.

And I find it funny that everyone acts like they KNOW Miami is cutting back spending. Sounds a bit foolish to think that's going to somehow save them from sanctions. She's the same president that took them out of the Big East and into the ACC for more revenue and a conference rivalry with FSU.

I know that's why I said appears, because non of us really know what is happening. I always wished for FSU, Miami, GT and Clemson. FSU and Clemson for the fan base and tradition. GT for the location and Miami because of tradition. I beleive Golden has them going in the right direction, but what is the NCAA going do?

You should have seen the baseball ones they rolled into Tally with a few weekends ago. They make the football ones look tame and no one should ever be messing with traditional baseball uniforms. It clearly shows a lack of respect and understanding of the game. I think you as a Horn fan can appreciate that.

I'm in Maryland today and there is no apparent feel or love for them anywhere. I guess I relate everything to the South and how they show support for their teams.

Vt has already said no 2 times. They are waiting for the big 10 if they are waiting for anyone. i don't buy their overtures to the big 12.

Nc St. Big market? sure ? does anyone watch them? no. I thought your games were on in Charlotte? if so, Nc St being in a big market is irrelevant

If us, clemson Vt all go to the big 12 you can say hello to nc st and louisville.

BYU has a lot of fans, but I see them going to the PAC 12 at some point. Because I don't see the PAC 12 crossing the rockies unless something major shakes things up.

I can only hope this all comes to pass and you join the conference. I know the travel will be more difficult, but we love our football just like FSU and Clemson.

I really, really like their "Pride" uniforms. I also like their turtle shell helmet. I pretty much hate all of their other combinations, though, or the flat/matte black helmet. I'm not a big fan of all these schools going with flat colored helmets these past few years. Looks like they were cheaply spray-painted. Whatever floats your boat, I guess, but my boat would drown.

Pride:
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0905/ncf_u_megget01jr_576.jpg

Turtle Shell:
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/755912/turtle_shell.jpg

Black:
http://www.ballhogsradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/MD-Black-Helmet.jpg

Other Combos:
http://kegsneggsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/scaled_php1.jpg
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/e4/e444b6b841815b906d45317b018c8424/actually_marylands_new_helmets_are_supposed_to_look_like_that.jpg

and VT said the same thing the week they announced their move to ACC. Don't kid yourself if the ACC is really done VT wouldn't turn down an SEC offer. Their fans want the SEC more than Big 10 or Big 12. Sure they would rather stay in the ACC but if that's not an option then the SEC would have the support of student, fans and boosters. I know it pains you but again this is about $$$ and not about a "brand".

Most don't really consider Maryland part of the south and the most populous regions in state contain a lot of out-of-towners. Also, because Maryland has never been a good football team and the school kinda thumbs its nose with an elitist mindset at locals, they aren't particularly endeared to the school. UVA has done a lot better job of getting their locals to like the school...its just a shame for them that the area is so rural and there are so few of them.

Mizzou would not be in your conference if Vt wanted to be in the SEC.

FWIW, the money is better in the big-10 by a lot.

As to VT not wanting in the ACC, you must have been asleep for all of 2004. They strong armed the va legislature and and the va governeor. The ACC did not want them -it wanted Syracuse but was forced to take VT b/c UVA was put over a barrel. They were more public about it then A&M was about the SEC.

Their fans would prefer to stay in the ACC, then its the big 10. They will try yet again the ride UVA's coattails, which (along with UNC) will only go the big 10 if they go anywhere.

VT got the invite to the ACC because of politics not in spite of them.

Those same political ties aren't easily severed when you still depend on the state for alot of $$$$. I think UVA and VT will stick together from here on out. Are "you" ready to take them both? I use "you" loosely because you aren't exactly the official mouthpiece of the conference. We heard for weeks that Bama fans would welcome FSU in the same fashion only to hear conference politics trump that in a heartbeat.

If the SEC takes NCSU well then we know they settled.

Since we live this stuff, SEC writers have been divvying up the ACC for a few months to see who would make our #15 and #16. Of course, no one foresaw the Big 12 power play after the ACC signed the sucky TV contract, but all along, the view from our writer's contacts have been the following:

SEC - Definitely Va Tech and NC State. That has been the view for a few years around here.

B1G - It is fairly well known that the B1G wants an outlet into the South. Ga. Tech would be their #1 choice, which is why you do not hear much grumbling out of Ga. Tech right now about the Big 12. The B1G is a better cultural fit for them. They would love UVA or UNC as #14 but would take Maryland if state politics get in the way. Any schools they add would have to be AAU members except for Notre Dame. The B1G could easily get to 16 if the ACC dissolved for some reason (very unlikely; they would kill the Big East first)

Big 12 - Obviously FSU and Clemson.

I think every other school is a wait and see. I personally think UVA, UNC, Duke, BC, WF, Pitt, and Cuse stay together through thick and thin and start poaching the Big East. It would not take them long to get back to 12, especially if Georgetown and/or Villanova made an effort to field decent football.