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For Everybody Who Doubts We Should Move To The Big 12

  • Just wait until you see the kind of crowds we are going to draw this year deadhorse

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    Noles3925

  • We will have great crowds this year, our sales are ahead of last years pace and we are around a 90% renewal from last years buyers. We will have all of the sideline seats sold out and we already have most of the seats below row 20 sold out in the end zone. When August gets here people will forget all about this expansion just like last year

    Jamnolfin

  • Even casual fans know we're going to have our best roster in 10 years this season. That coupled with a weak schedule and the fans are jacked it seems. Aside from Savanah State which will truly be a pathetic contest I think our fans are pumped about nearly every game.

    It'll be rowdy for Wake and Clemson and then I think we show up in force in Tampa as well.

    It'll take us being undefeated for a crowd to show up against BC. They will be truly woeful this year. Worse then Duke I'd say.

    fsufsu

  • Jamnolfin said...

    Forget all about this expansion just like last year.

    Doubt it. Not with a $2 million dollar budget deficit staring us in the face.

    fsukum

  • fsukum said...

    Doubt it. Not with a $2 million dollar budget deficit staring us in the face.

    I think Jam was talking about attendance. I will not be thinking about a deficit come August, I'll be doing my best to reduce it. I renewed and will continue to do so regardless if we're playing in the ACC or Big 12.

    ManBeast

  • I know what he meant and I doubt it. People won't forget, regardless of if they're in Doak or not.

    This post was edited by fsukum on 5/14/2012 at 11:47 PM

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  • Jamnolfin said...

    We will have great crowds this year, our sales are ahead of last years pace and we are around a 90% renewal from last years buyers. We will have all of the sideline seats sold out and we already have most of the seats below row 20 sold out in the end zone. When August gets here people will forget all about this expansion just like last year

    Look Jam, I have season tickets, but there is going to be nobody in the stands this year. The only games that are going to sell out are Clemson and UF. I live in Atlanta and I'm not driving 5 hours each way to see Murray State, Savannah State, Duke, and Boston College. I'll support my Noles no matter what, but you're kidding yourself if you think our attendance this year is going to be anything short of terrible.

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  • Jamnolfin said...

    We will have great crowds this year, our sales are ahead of last years pace and we are around a 90% renewal from last years buyers. We will have all of the sideline seats sold out and we already have most of the seats below row 20 sold out in the end zone. When August gets here people will forget all about this expansion just like last year

    Nobody will forget about expansion. They haven't for the last 2 years.

    And if tickets are so great why did Spetman blame the budget on lagging ticket sales?

    tricknole

  • Noles3925 said...

    Look Jam, I have season tickets, but there is going to be nobody in the stands this year. The only games that are going to sell out are Clemson and UF. I live in Atlanta and I'm not driving 5 hours each way to see Murray State, Savannah State, Duke, and Boston College. I'll support my Noles no matter what, but you're kidding yourself if you think our attendance this year is going to be anything short of terrible.

    Its like that gym membership people buy at new yrs then stop going in March, if the tickets are sold, well...?

    I still do not see where this big step up in competition will occur with the B12, are you driving 5 hrs to see Iowa St? Kansas? K-state? Because thats what you are going to have. We will play Texas as often as we play VT (which I am quite sure you willd rive 5 hrs to see the Hokies), and OU will essentially replace Maimi on the schedule.

    So just wondering, whats the difference?

    Pbenuncensored2

  • Pben-uncensored said...

    I still do not see where this big step up in competition will occur with the B12, are you driving 5 hrs to see Iowa St? Kansas? K-state? Because thats what you are going to have. We will play Texas as often as we play VT (which I am quite sure you willd rive 5 hrs to see the Hokies), and OU will essentially replace Maimi on the schedule.

    So just wondering, whats the difference?

    Exactly! I really do not want to travel to Lawrence, Manhattan, Norman, Lubbock, Waco, or Ames. Only Austin is appealing.
    DC, Miami, Atlanta occasionally, Boston, and Pittsburgh are all much better.

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  • If you took money out of it. And just looked at who we would be playing and where I still think the ACC is better. I have no extra interest if the middle of the pack and lower tier XIIteams come to tally. I certainly would have no interest in going to an away game outside of UT and OU, TCU. We have plenty of alumni all up and down the east coast. Minus the money anyone who says the Big XII makes more sense has blinders on.

    This post was edited by NYNOLE2 on 5/15/2012 at 6:20 AM

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  • Jamnolfin said...

    We will have great crowds this year, our sales are ahead of last years pace and we are around a 90% renewal from last years buyers. We will have all of the sideline seats sold out and we already have most of the seats below row 20 sold out in the end zone. When August gets here people will forget all about this expansion just like last year

    That's not even close to true. Ticket sales are way down because of the loss of WVU. I'd be suprised to se the place 80% full for games other than Clemson and UF. The WVU games was supposed to help with the defecit.

    gonoles1

  • NYNOLE2 said...

    If you took money out of it. And just looked at who we would be playing and where I still think the ACC is better. I have no extra interest if the middle of the pack and lower tier XIIteams come to tally. I certainly would have no interest in going to an away game outside of UT and OU, TCU. We have plenty of alumni all up and down the east coast. Minus the money anyone who says the Big XII makes more sense has blinders on.

    You would rather play Duke than Baylor or Iowa State, I wouldn't.

    gonoles1

  • If Baylor can keep going in the right direction then good on them, but let's not kid ourselves and pretend Baylor is some kind of draw. They've had a couple of good years, but look at their record from 2009 going backwards.

    amcconna

  • gonoles1 said...

    That's not even close to true. Ticket sales are way down because of the loss of WVU. I'd be suprised to se the place 80% full for games other than Clemson and UF. The WVU games was supposed to help with the defecit.

    You realize jam is 'fairly close' to the ticket situation, right?

    FluffyBunny

  • FluffyBunny said...

    You realize jam is 'fairly close' to the ticket situation, right?

    If ticket sales are so great why is there a budget shortfall this year? Every single season ticket holder I know personally is planning on scaling back the games they attend this year. Many are also scalling back the amount of season tickets they own. I know this is a small sample size but when the Athletic Director blames the budget shortfall on ticket sales how could we possible be doing better? So we had a 90 pecent renewal rate that still means we lost 10 percent of are season ticket holders that is not good.

    KtownNole

  • I wouldn't argue with jam on this. The man is in the business of selling tickets. I am pretty sure he has some sort of idea how many are being sold.

    Savannah State is Youth Day. While to the everyday fan that means nothing, to people who go to the games, they know that Youth Day is usually the worst game of the season (last year was Charleston Southern) and probably around 10,000 seats are given to JTAA, YMCA, etc., for little league teams. I am not sure how much it costs for those tickets, I am assuming less than the $25-30 face value, but regardless, Youth Day helps us get some income on tickets for a games that would usually have a lot of empty seats.

    Funny thing was last season, solely because of Youth Day, the Charleston Southern game had a higher attendance than UL-Monroe did.

    Our home slate outside of Florida and Clemson is a bore, no doubt about that. That being said, if we are winning and are undefeated (or maybe just 1 loss), people will come to the games. Lets face it, if we are 6-0 going into BC or 8-0 going into Duke, those games will be close to sold out by the time kickoff comes around. They may not be great games, but people want to see a winner, and if we have just 1 loss (or unbeaten), people will show up. Like someone already said, even the casual fan knows this is our best roster in perhaps 10 years.

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    crozea55

  • One thing I will say is those first 3 games are going to be rough. Not because they are just bad teams, but because it is tough to fill a stadium 4 consecutive weeks. People are going to make sure they make it for Clemson, which means of those first 3 games, it is highly doubtful they make it to any more than 2 of them.

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  • FluffyBunny said...

    You realize jam is 'fairly close' to the ticket situation, right?

    This is a new message board world, where jam is a idiot, I am a idiot cause I dont see the financial windfall of the b12, in fact anyone who disagrees with the majority are idiots, morons and downright mentally unstable.

    Please keep up, it took a lot of brain power to even post this.

    Pbenuncensored2

  • Pben-uncensored said...

    This is a new message board world, where jam is a idiot, I am a idiot cause I dont see the financial windfall of the b12, in fact anyone who disagrees with the majority are idiots, morons and downright mentally unstable.

    Please keep up, it took a lot of brain power to even post this.

    With this Big 12 stuff this place is starting to look familiar

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  • FluffyBunny said...

    You realize jam is 'fairly close' to the ticket situation, right?

    Um, how many salesman would admit sales are down?

    I don't care either way, but how can one create demand by saying "Golly Gee, sales are way down, so I guess you guys should wait and pick up individual tix for $17 a game outside the stadium"?

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    WillyDees

  • FluffyBunny said...

    You realize jam is 'fairly close' to the ticket situation, right?

    Um, how many salesman would admit sales are down?

    I don't care either way, but how can one create demand by saying "Golly Gee, sales are way down, so I guess you guys should wait and pick up individual tix for $17 a game outside the stadium"?

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  • SteveIsTall said...

    Exactly! I really do not want to travel to Lawrence, Manhattan, Norman, Lubbock, Waco, or Ames. Only Austin is appealing.DC, Miami, Atlanta occasionally, Boston, and Pittsburgh are all much better.

    I had a great time in Norman and OKC. Never been to Austin but, heard it was good. If we do go to the Big 12 I will certainly travel to Lawrence, Manhatten, Lubbock, Waco and Ames to check it out. You never know what you are missing.

    MiamiNole

  • Pben-uncensored said...

    Its like that gym membership people buy at new yrs then stop going in March, if the tickets are sold, well...?

    I still do not see where this big step up in competition will occur with the B12, are you driving 5 hrs to see Iowa St? Kansas? K-state? Because thats what you are going to have. We will play Texas as often as we play VT (which I am quite sure you willd rive 5 hrs to see the Hokies), and OU will essentially replace Maimi on the schedule.

    So just wondering, whats the difference?

    Yeah, K State wouldn't be a good example right now as they are pre- season ranked in the top 15. You do realize only 4 of the Big 12 schools are not ranked in the top 25. Whereas, INCLUDING FSU only 3 ACC teams are in the top 25.

    aetnole