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Fisher: "I'm not disappointed at all [in the season]."

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  • haitian_nole said...

    Would you consider the following teams offenses huge dissapointments ? Alabama, Georgia, USC, Ohio State, Notre Dame, Boise State, LSU, Florida, I can go on and on.. FYI, our offense was better than all of theirs.. Before you talk about weak schedule. Go look at Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Boise State and some of the other teams everyone wants to be like...

    Our offense was not better than any of those teams except for maybe UF. And they started a true sophomore at QB.

    MCG3934

  • fsukum said...

    Coach speak.

    Total coach speak. No way I can imagine Jimbo feels this way after getting slapped around at home by his best friend and our biggest rival.

    MCG3934

  • MCG3934 said...

    Our offense was not better than any of those teams except for maybe UF. And they started a true sophomore at QB.

    You might wanna look at the stats. It was better than all of them... You obviously don't know what you're talking about...

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  • haitian_nole said...

    You might wanna look at the stats. It was better than all of them... You obviously don't know what you're talking about...

    Please look at opponent adjusted stats, and you will find differently.

    MCG3934

  • MCG3934 said...

    Please look at opponent adjusted stats, and you will find differently.

    Don't need to look at opponent adjusted stats. We play who we play. Everybody had soft games. With that being said, go look at websites that keep track of the stats and you will find that FSU was ahead of all of them..

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  • haitian_nole said...

    Don't need to look at opponent adjusted stats. We play who we play. Everybody had soft games. With that being said, go look at websites that keep track of the stats and you will find that FSU was ahead of all of them..

    The fact that you don't feel the need to look at opponent adjusted data pretty much erases any credibility you started out with in your ridiculous claims.

    FWIW, look at the FEI and S&P for offenses in 2012. Nearly every team you mentioned is ranked higher than FSU, who had an offensive FEI ranking in the mid-50's.

    With the talent on the offensive side of the ball, that is highly underwhelming.

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  • haitian_nole said...

    Don't need to look at opponent adjusted stats. We play who we play. Everybody had soft games. With that being said, go look at websites that keep track of the stats and you will find that FSU was ahead of all of them..

    Is this for real? So you don't care that our offense is crap vs. any opponents we play with real defenses?

    MCG3934

  • Nothing wrong with being honest and saying something like, "There's always some disappointment when you aren't playing for it all at the end but we won our conference and are playing in the Orange Bowl. We've had a very successful season and have a lot to be proud of."

    But "I'm not disappointed at all" is complete BS. His rhetoric is wearing thin on me.

    This post was edited by tricknole on 12/28/2012 at 7:19 PM

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  • WillyDees said...

    The fact that you don't feel the need to look at opponent adjusted data pretty much erases any credibility you started out with in your ridiculous claims.

    FWIW, look at the FEI and S&P for offenses in 2012. Nearly every team you mentioned is ranked higher than FSU, who had an offensive FEI ranking in the mid-50's.

    With the talent on the offensive side of the ball, that is highly underwhelming.

    Well said.

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  • tricknole said...

    Nothing wrong with being honest and saying something like, "There's always some disappointment when you aren't playing for it all at the end but we won our conference and are playing in the Orange Bowl. We've had a very successful season and have a lot to be proud of."

    But "I'm not disappointed at all" is complete BS. His rhetoric is wearing thin on me.

    If this is how you feel, you didn't read the whole interview.

    fsufelip

  • DaddyO said...

    We are where we need to be. We are in the mix. To get to the big game you have to have the ball bounce your way a time or two in the regular season. That did not happen for us this year, but we are there. We were a blocked punt and some unfortunate turnovers short. Had the ball bounced our way we would be playing a week later. This season is indicative of the type of seasons we need to be having. Tactically there may be disappointment, but strategically we should all be very excited.

    WE are not that close to where we need to be. We need to show up on the road every game. We need to be able to play physically with anyone.

    We need consistent offensive playcalling and consistent ol play.

    This year was a baby step forward. We have only one inexplicable loss. That is progress. an acc title is progress. If we lose to NIU then the season is a failure.

    TNOLE27

  • tricknole said...

    Nothing wrong with being honest and saying something like, "There's always some disappointment when you aren't playing for it all at the end but we won our conference and are playing in the Orange Bowl. We've had a very successful season and have a lot to be proud of."

    But "I'm not disappointed at all" is complete BS. His rhetoric is wearing thin on me.

    The following is the full quote which I think is pretty hard to have an issue with.
    “I’m not disappointed at all. I think we’ve had a tremendous season. Am I satisfied? No. I’m not satisfied because we want to win a national championship, but I’m very happy with where our program’s going and the way we’re recruiting and the way we’re playing."

    GoNolez2004

  • nolesontop said...

    He also said he was not satisfied. There is a huge gulf between disappointed and not satisfied.

    It was a good season, not a great one. But at the beginning of the season, if somebody said we would have 11 wins and an ACC championship, most of us would have been happy. We had one hugely disappointing loss and a couple of other games that were closer than they should have been, but it was generally a good season.

    This. Don't just pick and choose parts of his quote original poster.

    He also said he isn't satisfied because he wants to win a national championship.

    Context is your friend.

    Don Molino

  • haitian_nole said...

    Regardless of some people not wanting to admit it, we took the next step. You can't win National Titles without winning your conference. We haven't done that in a long time. Possibly winning 12 games for only the second time in school history is also big.

    Alabama 2011 says this is incorrect. You don't have to win your conference first to win a national title.

    Things don't happen, necessarily, in a neat, step by step process.

    This would actually be the 3rd time we could win 12 games (93: 12-1, 99: 12-0) but it'll take 14 games and the easiest schedule in my lifetime to do it. It certainly doesn't suck but "winning 12 games" is a bit hollow when everyone here knows how terrible we looked too often this year.

    I credit Fisher a ton for upgrading the talent level here, and modernizing the program (which most coaches born after WWII would do so it's not a novel concept). But I have yet to see him "coach 'em up" in any way, shape or form the last 2 years.

    95nole

  • 95nole said...

    Alabama 2011 says this is incorrect. You don't have to win your conference first to win a national title.

    Things don't happen, necessarily, in a neat, step by step process.

    This would actually be the 3rd time we could win 12 games (93: 12-1, 99: 12-0) but it'll take 14 games and the easiest schedule in my lifetime to do it. It certainly doesn't suck but "winning 12 games" is a bit hollow when everyone here knows how terrible we looked too often this year.

    I credit Fisher a ton for upgrading the talent level here, and modernizing the program (which most coaches born after WWII would do so it's not a novel concept). But I have yet to see him "coach 'em up" in any way, shape or form the last 2 years.

    Jimbo is a recruiter, not a xs and os type coach. Sorta like Ron zook.

    MCG3934

  • MCG3934 said...

    Jimbo is a recruiter, not a xs and os type coach. Sorta like Ron zook.

    We have an AWESOME fan base. Some people are clamoring that Jimbo is too much into the X's and O's, far too involved in the game planning for both the offense and the defense, and then you come here and say that he's the opposite. Funny stuff.

    fsufelip

  • 95nole said...

    Alabama 2011 says this is incorrect. You don't have to win your conference first to win a national title.

    Things don't happen, necessarily, in a neat, step by step process.

    This would actually be the 3rd time we could win 12 games (93: 12-1, 99: 12-0) but it'll take 14 games and the easiest schedule in my lifetime to do it. It certainly doesn't suck but 'winning 12 games' is a bit hollow when everyone here knows how terrible we looked too often this year.

    I credit Fisher a ton for upgrading the talent level here, and modernizing the program (which most coaches born after WWII would do so it's not a novel concept). But I have yet to see him 'coach 'em up' in any way, shape or form the last 2 years.

    You're using the wrong Alabama team as an example. You need to use their team from 09 I think it was that beat Texas. The year before they lost the SEC championship game to Florida.

    And our '99 schedule was very similar to this year's schedule. Miami was down like they are now, only then they were on their way back, unlike the current Miami team. Our only game where you could go in really expect a battle was at Gainesville. Difference that year? Our QB was Weinke.

    fsufelip

  • 11-2 and a conference championship is a very big improvement over last year. And we did it without Reid and Jenkins for the whole year and lost Thompson and Carradine as well (think missing Carradine didn't hurt in the fourth quarter against uf?). How many teams could lose 4 of their 5 best players and still win 11-12 games? Not very many.

    Unlike Jimbo, I am disappointed. Because we had the team and the schedule to make a run this year. But hopefully he's learned and will grow from his mistakes (NCST) and we'll catch a few more breaks next season.

    Enzo

  • fsufelip said...

    We have an AWESOME fan base. Some people are clamoring that Jimbo is too much into the X's and O's, far too involved in the game planning for both the offense and the defense, and then you come here and say that he's the opposite. Funny stuff.

    Who the heck has ever accused Jimbo of being too much of a Xs and Os guy?

    MCG3934

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