Unconquered

If the SEC chooses between FSU and Clemson, then one left is a good bet to end up in the B12. The SEC needs to ask their self do they want the B12 in Florida or South Car?

Not obvious that top 7 teams of the SEC below > the top 7 teams of the B12 below:

SEC: BAMA, LSU, UF, UGA, TA&M, USCE, AUBURN
B12: FSU, OKLAHOMA, TEXAS, WVU, OKST, TCU, KSTATE

Nc state? so you can add yet more dead weight. Are your games shown in charlotte now?

The question isn't who can help you get the SEc network on in Charlotte, but who can help get in on in Chicago or LA?

FSU does that part because we have a national following a bit bigger than yours and bigger than anyone else in the SEC.

If you were going to try to get the Dc market you already lost. Md is more popular than vt in the dc markets.

So FSU is a bigger brand that UF? Bigger brand than Bama?...one of the bluebloods of college football

IF FSU is this GREAT brand then Slive should be knocking down your door no matter what UF, Ga, Sc and Ky have to say about it.

Well yea. It seems obvious you'd choose us. But things would have to shake our way prior to that because it seems SEC fans are afraid to add us and use "markets" as their excuse.

nationally than Bama-yes. We are equivalent to you. See when Bama is not in the mnc game for 2 years in a row their ratings are-lower than ours.

Look at ratings of games.

Slive can't find his ass with his hands- but you are right he should call us . Advertisers cares about turning on tv sets. Mizzou turns on about 5 of them.

Slive is so far sighted he picked a team that was rejected by the big 10-twice. However, a multi time big 10 reject is OK for the SEC.

I hope he does not call us. I would rather be with Texas and Ou than a conference of yahoos.

It's sad that the Gator is the one who is SPOT ON about this topic. This is what it boils down to. It's not that difficult to figure out. Not sure if the math is completely right (I assume it is), but the concept is completely correct.

Now, the problem with adding a school like NCST or UNC is that it might dilute the football product, unless those schools really stepped it up (no jokes about us losing to NCST). Which is why, despite the clear logic ($$$) in the footprint expansion idea, there is a chance they would take one of us. In addition, one could perhaps argue that the SEC wants to block the Big 12 from poaching FSU and establishing themselves in the FL market.

No, FSU does not have a bigger national brand than Alabama, at least right now. That is ridiculous. Alabama also has a crapload more tradition than FSU. Yes, FSU and UF are on the same level in terms of national brand. It is ridiculous to say that UF has more of a brand than we do.

There was some VA legislative crap to allow VT into the ACC. Basically, there had to be a 7/9 vote to allow VT in. I think UNC and another of the Tobacco Rd teams (Duke I believe) were most likely vs. it. UVa was on the fence. The VA legislature basically forced the UVa president (Casteen) to publicly come out and support VT joining (and obviously approve the vote as well). The thing is that it was VERY public and it could be a slap in the face vs. the VA legislature for VT to now move from the SEC. But the again, this occurred a number of years ago, so maybe nobody cares anymore. In reality, Tech left the dying Big East...it was good for the state of VA on a whole for that to happen. It's not necessarily bad for the state for VT to leave the ACC.

The ACC had higher conference payouts at the time and obviously much better academics. You guys are terrible with facts but do quite well with arrogance and group think.