Unconquered

No that I think we're going to the SEC, but I keep hearing people say that the SEC already has the Florida market. While that's true, why would the SEC allow another power conference (Big 12) to get a foot in the market well? You would think that they would want you control it. However, I don't see the SEC making a push until someone else does first; they've no reason to.

Hasn't the Virginia legislature tied Virginia and Virginia Tech together -- so they are a package deal?

I don't see the SEC jumping on board with that... There isn't a long history of success with either school... And VT is unlikely to remain successful over the long haul IMHO. Clemson/FSU would be the power play here.

The question is competition vs. overlapping market share. Will the increased competition generate enough revenue to offset the overlapping which happens in shared markets?

The answer -- is if Clemson and FSU remain highly competitive, then go for it.... I think both teams have fanbases that will never allow their program to slip too far... we simply aren't going to tolerate a coach like Beamer/Zook like performance,.. We'd chase them off too quickly.

You sign Clemson & FSU, before the Big 12 does. Because once the Big 12 swallows teams, I don't see those teams leaving. Their "death penalty" is too brutal and it's a lot more iron clad, because all members agree to it... and you have to agree to it, before you join.

VT isn't as tied to UVA as some think. Plus no one is saying UVA cannot go to the B1G because of VT. NC State is tied to UNC way more than VT/UVA.

The SEC getting VT and FSU is a win win. A new TV market and a team with National appeal.

If we were going to the Big12, we would have gone already. It is SEC or bust.

That is what i have been hearing also. FSU and V-Tech would be better option.

I think the choice would be pretty easy between these two, nothing against Clemson. But money-wise, FSU has the bigger national following and is in a much, much more populous state, so doubling up wouldn't "hurt" much, and I still think it could actually be beneficial for the SEC to do so in Florida (increasing subscription fees within the state higher than with UF only).

But I'm not holding my breath.

I've seen people say (so it may not be worth anything) that the state simply wanted VT to not be left behind in a crumbling Big East. So if VT could go to the SEC and UVA to the Big Ten, I don't know if it'd be a big deal. They could both still play in all sports OOC.

This came from Mr. Blonde on th tBB pretty good summary of why the Slive wants new markets:

"This isn't about quality. Never has been. Its about markets.

If the SEC doesn't have a team in the market, they can only charge about $0.10 per subscriber for the SEC network. North Carolina has 3.4 million cable and satellite homes. Virginia has 2.8 million cable and satellite homes.

If the SEC Network were implemented today, that would be $620,000 per month, 7.4 million per year for these two markets.

If the SEC adds NC State and Virginia Tech, the carriage fees jump to $1 per subscriber. That would be $6.2 million per month, or 74.4 MILLION annually. That's just for these 2 markets.

The SEC already has SC, GA, FL, and KY (can charge the $1) Adding teams from these areas doesn't add to the pie. It would actually give Alabama a smaller check at the end of the year."

Doubt that would ever happen. Those schools run this conference.

I'm not the most in tune person to how all this works, but what's stopping FSU from just applying for membership to the SEC and making them vote and say yes or no? Is it we don;t want to put ourselves in the position of having been denied or what? Just seems like an easier way to see were we stand.
Like I said I probably dont know enough, but I would like to see FSU in a different conference.

or better yet how about we apply for membership to the SEC ,BIG10 ,BIG12 ,and PAC12 just to see what happens....yea i know some of these conferences are a reach but lets take a proactive approach and see what happens

How is Alabama a good comparison? The population is small and they're grandfathered in during this expansion game. If demand is higher the price goes up. And if FSU were included, the demand for the network would skyrocket and the SEC could then demand a higher fee in Florida and obviously increase revenue.

Would love to see Alabama or Auburn fans show up at Chapel Hill (or vice versa) for a game. The culture clash would be epoch.

If the SEC (like the recent B1G expansion) continues to add bottom feeders, they won't the best #1 conference anymore.