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I have a question for you guys I Dont have to many true fsu fans for friends all of them only watch 1 game every year and thats Miami vs FSU it makes me sick lol well here's my question obviously EJ is gone after this year who do you guys see starting at QB next year? And do you think it will be hard for that player since its really been all about EJ since ponder left!? Thanks in advance for the answers and congrats on the win on Saturday hopefully we see eachother in the ACC championship game! Good luck with the rest of your season guys!
I think it will be Clint Trickett although I don't think he is the most talented, but is certainly the most experienced and has done okay when he has played.
I don't really think it will be that hard for him either as long as our offensive line progresses like it should and many expect.
IMO he is a better passer than EJ but obviously less mobile. He has an excellent grasp of the playbook so that won't be an issue.
I think Coker is going to be lights out when he gets his chance though and would love it if it he absolutely took over this spring/fall and earns the starting job.
If the OL can protect Trickett, and I believe they can (with ease..)
Then I believe Trickett will actually be a better quarterback than EJ. He won't be a better 'football player', since EJ can do things that Trickett can't, but Trickett is much better at pre-snap adjustments at the line, identifying the blitz, and has a more accurate/tighter ball.
Just my humble opinion.
Coker will be special though.
Yea I was thinking trickett also but what is scary is his size he just looks so little but I have heard that he is a smart QB I haven't really seen him play but I heard good things! Do you guys think that the offense will change at all since it seems like FSU offense thrives on a QB that can use his legs? Ponder/EJ both can run lol
If Winston can grasp the playbook and decides that football is more important than baseball then he might could start too.
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EJ is not that good. He's an 85% QB when throwing to wide open people and 40% on "NFL" throws. Tight windows, down field, tight coverage, etc. Trickett is a much better thrower and Coker is an equal athlete. Jameis is both.
Company that with our nation leading rush game next year and we should be chill at QB.
This post was edited by fsufsu 18 months ago
Clint might know the playbook better than Jimbo hes been around it so long. And he has a better arm but is less mobile
EJ has actually been significantly better pre-snap this year. And he seems to do poorly at the beginning of games/halves. Once he gets into a rhythm, he seems to throw the ball a lot better. His work with Whitfield over the summer clearly helped, as he's been leaps and bounds better on screens/"touch" type passes. Also throwing the ball with a lot more zip than last year on certain types of throws. Missed a couple of corner blitzes, but more than one was on a back not picking up/tackle missing assignment/both.
I've been critical of EJ but his improvement over last year has been night and day. He's been pretty darn good out of the gun and we've shown a pretty large amount of variety with our run plays from the gun. It's expanded from read option, stretch and PA nakeds to include counters, PA bootlegs, power, QB power, runs where both backside G/T pull. And of course, we've seen PA passing from most of these looks. Jimbo's clearly done this to let EJ play from the gun while being able to effectively run the ball. First ran the counter vs NCSU, showed it again against BC, showed the PA bootleg vs BC. Jimbo tailoring the offense to EJ's strengths, despite what many think/say.
Has EJ progressed to Ponder levels? No, but that's a hell of a high standard to set someone to. I like Trickett but limited QB mobility is something that will always hold him back.
Keep EJ running and he plays to his potential... For whatever reason he doesn't seem to get into a rhythm when he's stationary.
Clint is a better true passer than EJ. He has that gunslinger mentality which should pair well with our running game. He'll utilize O Leary more too. Clint is working on his size now that they know he has a dietary disease that caused his weight issues. He already put 10 pounds on through his new diet and that was around spring time. He's probably heavier now.
Winston or Coker.
Everyone forgets this...
The kid just figured out this disease a year ago and is already throwing on a lot of lean mass/muscle. I've heard a lot of people saying he is not big enough to take the hits.
The way I figure it is, he has a higher IQ than EJ and throws down field significantly better, with far less experience... He's a natural killer on the field (Brett Favre style)....
He has the height, arm, and and IQ to go very high in the NFL draft... if he starts next year, and continues to play like he has.... it all boils down to his physical size (how much muscle he can put on) and how much he can improve...
I'm going to go out on a limb and say, with the possibility of playing in the NFL on the line... the boy drags his ass up to GNC and hits the weight room real frigging hard... If he has the dedication, he could significantly change the course of his life over the next 24-months...
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In a perfect world, I think Jimbo would like to see Coker take the job this spring. He's not going to just give him the job, he will have to beat out Trickett. There was a reason Fisher went after Coker so hard against Alabama when he was recruiting him. Trickett has put up some good numbers in his time, but the stat that matters is he didn't win any of the games he was in (admittedy, that's not all on him, defense didn't help out much either). I don't hate Trickett, though some will say that's what this is, I just look at Trickett as a career backup. That's not putting him down, some guys are just more suited for that role. Trickett is a guy you can depend on for a few game stretch to keep things together if the starter goes down. I honestly think Trickett helps this team more as a viable backup than the starter.
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Clint will be the starter next season and he MAY even be close to 200 lbs by time the season starts (I know it's a stretch). Like above posters said, kid is a coach's son and knows the playbook. He'll be a good college QB but the offense will have to change a little because he was slow as hell in the games he played last season so no designed runs.
Coker and Winston could be special players. Both those guys are prolly just as smart as Clint but have better athletic ability and less experience/playbook knowledge.
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This is a good example of what a lot of people are repeating, but this assessment on Trickett was prior to the discovery of his disease.
If he comes into camp next year and puts on another 10+ pounds of muscle, then this assessment can be thrown out the window...
Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing them fight it out on the field... They both seem pretty competitive.... and selfless.... Rotate them out, until one of them proves themselves...
I'm just saying, you don't have QB's do what he did against Clemson last year, in their first career start... or come in and do what he did against a top-5 Oklahoma team.. There is something special about this kid and we have no idea what his potential may be.
Coaches sons make great QBs
I think Trickett will throw the ball all over the field and we will run a lot of play action passing as our running game shouod be good.. I think we will score a ton of points next year.
This. Probably Coker. No way Jimbo goes with Clint as our starting QB - one good game doesn't make him a stud. He's still ridiculously underweight even at 185 and has no mobility - a prerequisite for Jimbo's QB. Word on the street is that Coker is legit at practices. I hope James is ready though... I expect a hec kof a competition this spring.
Ice water flowing through his veins... nutting up against a top 5-Oklahoma team and throwing that pass over the middle, after EJ has sucked it up all night = X-FACTOR
The kid has an X-FACTOR, and it may be far higher than any of us realize right now.
Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Joe Montana = all equally as mobile as Trickett. Watch the Patriots... Our offense looks pretty similar, when the line is blocking.
If Trickett doesn't start, he is gone.
You guys assume way too much.
If Coker was going to be the guy, he would be getting more experience NOW.
Get real people.
Uncle Nash and I are going to be the co-starters. No need to worry.
Oh come on, not even Coach Trickett would wax so poetic about RT. Nonetheless, the kid will sling it any chance he gets.
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The starter will be the guy being complained about by 50% of our fan base.
Wish he would've had that X-FACTOR vs. Wake 2011.
Next year, we'll be having the "Trickett is no EJ" discussions.
Love the kid, but can't believe somebody is projecting Clint to the NFL. Clint will be the capable back-up QB until he leaves FSU, then he'll be doing his true calling, coaching QBs at Akron.
Bush what have you heard about Winston so far? I know it's early.
GNC - these are college athletes, if they want the real deal its available - I know this for a fact -
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