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Nick Saban can explain it best.
Blocking punts is a risky proposition.
This post was edited by atgreek 17 months ago
So is returning it (for us). There is a time and place to go for blocks.
This post was edited by fsukum 17 months ago
True, but unless you have more than 6 or 7 yards needed for 1st, I would never risk it.
This is what happens, all too often.
I gotta think we got one guy on our roster who can reliably field a punt. Who cares if we return it for lots of yards? Let Trey Pettis try if he wants to, or Dan Foose, if only just to keep from having teams down it inside our 5-yard line.
And I agree with atgreek: you give up a lot more first downs by penalty than you get blocks.
You go for blocks if you discover you have somebody on your team who has a serious knack for getting to the punter without committing a penalty. Then, maybe you do it.
This post was edited by googolplex 17 months ago
Yea, I still can't believe we never go for the block. We just have to many athletes to not give it a shot at least once a game. It has paid off for the gates the last few years.
I wish we did it more often. I can only remember going after it against Clemson last year with Joyner since Jimbo has been the coach. I could understand not doing it as much when we had G5, but most of the time the punter could peel a banana back there before punting it and that bothers me.
I agree with Jimbo on not going for punts. We've been burnt many more times in the past roughing the kicker than we have been successful at blocking the punt.
I like that, we should never do anything risky.
Kenny Powers: "A true champion will do whatever it takes to rise above. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies."
We did a poor job at Clemson last year and kept a couple of td drives alive with roughing calls. S it was risky at least in that game. However, with all the muffs maybe we should go after a few. UF averted disaster today by getting a block
Last year we had Reid back returning punts.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by TNOLE27 17 months ago
My point still remains that if you create a situation where players want to jump, and the ultimate reward is a block, overeagerness will more often than not, will create a mistake.
One that will turn the game around.
UF had NOTHING to lose in that situation. There is no carryover to OT.
BS comparison. One fo the few times you go for it, for nothing bad can really happen.
atgreek, I respect you, your views and your ties to the program. But we are in complete disagreement on this subject so I'll just leave it with this.
I may be of the "old guard" of FSU fans (although I'm certainly not 'old") and I grew up with this team. My formative and later college years took place when FSU was in dynasty mode. So maybe times have changed but I think that's the easy way out. Football has evolved somewhat but blocked kicks still happen. And believe me, FSU blocked a ton of kicks back then.
And I'm not talking about blocking punts against Duke just for practice (although we certainly did use those "tuneups" constructively), I'm talking about blocking punts in NATIONAL TITLE GAMES. It certainly doesn't get any "riskier" than that particular setting. We blocked a punt in the '96 game against UF (in Doak when it was #1 vs. #2) when everyone in the world KNEW we were coming after it. A punt block is a huge play, we saw it first hand against us this year, it's a crowd igniter or passifier and is huge for momentum.
I'm not talking about going after a punt "for old time's sake" or to signify that we "are finally back". But when we don't have a single reliable return man, we're playing an inferior opponent that we have allowed to stick around, we're playing in a hostile environment where we suddenly find out points are at a premium, these are pretty damn good reasons to at least try. I think it would behoove this staff to try to find other ways to generate points.
This post was edited by BigErn 17 months ago
I'll say this, we better go after UF. That hunter Will kick it 60 yards if we give him time.
It's the formation change. Jimbo was quoted as saying, who blocks a punt anymore, and he's right. The new formation that is used by most teams in CFB makes it extremely tough to block punts.
Remember VA Tech and how often they used to do it. Wonder why they don't anymore?
Surprised this hasn't been mentioned...
Was that before or after we had TWO blocked this year? The modern protections present a different challenge but blocks are still happening.
I think tje reason we dont go after blocks = acc crap ass refs. It just appears the past few years we cant trust them not to burn us. Even if we get the block its called back for a garbage penalty.
The issue is the angle has changed with the wall in front of the kicker. You used to teach to take it off his foot but miss him if you didn't get it. Angle is too sharp most of the time. New rules also that you can't go over the wall. Much more difficult to block. Really happens when someone misses a block completely.
Conservative bs imo I hate coaches that play scared
GO NOLES! / SCALP EM!
We could do it right before halves with nothing to lose. However, we don't do it. That is why I said a few.
We used to be excellent at blocking. I understand your point if it is less than 5 yards. As to the roughing part, it was rare we used to rough someone but we blocked a lot of punts.
This post was edited by TNOLE27 17 months ago
Probably cause we return more for TD's than people block
Because our returners clearly need practice catching the ball.
Lol Underrated post
Interesting. I guess I'll have to keep that in mind next year.
We have very good return men, when they catch the ball, so it makes sense for us to try and return most punts.
There is absolutely no excuse for NEVER attempting to block a punt/kick. There are absolutely opportune times to attempt it. You absolutely cannot allow your opponent to be comfortable back there on EVERY single punt/kick.
Yes, those are absolutes.
Being too afraid to even bother attempting to block any kicks or punts sounds like the same scared, conservative thought process that has permeated Fisher's playcalling all too often in our flops as a team and his as a coach these past 3 years.
I'm glad those are absolutes.
EVERYTIME we try to block a punt we rough the punter
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