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I think they are the next global collapse
Hard to tell. But they are set up for a huge 2014 recruiting class ATM. Yearby, maybe cook or sony, lane, McDermot, and that DTQB they got, etc...
Still think FSU and UF will have better 2014 classes though.
Not sure what the sanctions will be if/when they happen.
I fear a Stacy Coley/Ermon Lane duo.
The Future is Now.
Yeah, if they have Stacey Coley, Lane, Michel and Yearby--and i think they will--well, I guess I better not say what I think their future is. But collapse is not the word.
The phrase "awakened giant" might be more apt.
I think they should be nervous as hell that all of this has happened at the worst time possible. You have to realize that the ACC is about to further break up and then merge with the Big East. It's just what's going to happen. If they are left in this conference they will shrivel and die. Period.
I think the Big 12 adds FSU and Clemson and then waits on Notre Dame. If ND wont join they wont go past 12. Miami MIGHT be who comes in with ND if the Big 12 goes to 14.
They will still suck regardless if they get crushed by the NCAA or not but any thing over 5 ships per year kills them.
L'Ville or VT?
FSU will give the Big12 the TV market of Florida, conferences are realigning on TV markets they wouldn't attempt to be redundant.
Half-awake giant. Their defense is not getting better.
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2012 Clemson honestly. Talented offense, no defense.
Also, while on sanctions they will need to maintain a very very good OL and revamp a terrible DL. Good luck.
I think even with the sanctions they will always get enough dangerous players to have a punchers chance and upset pretty good teams if they have an off day or things just go um's way.
I remember the 2011, 2012 and 2013 class being "set up huge" each February. A year later, it was a flop. Kids start taking visits and see that Miami's program is 2nd fiddle to most around the southern states.
Very Average future for Miami! lots of 7-6 8-5 9-4 seasons
Miami wil always get default talent based on nothing more than location. Golden has beefed up SoFla recruiting with new hires but these appear to be mercs waiting on their next gig. I don't think Miami is set up for long term success with or without sanctions.
Miami gets kids that can't/won't leave. When Yearby says he wants to play in front of his family I respect it. We'll see if he feels the same when he sees empty stands next year. But when he signs with Miami he's seeing the field instantly. At FSU he's buried for at least a year. So I understand it.
Long story short I'm not worried about Miami. We have bigger problems like keeping up with the SEC and getting the hell out of this conference.
I think miami is done as a national power... cfb has changed dramatically and their program is not financially set up to suceed
I could see them having 10 win seasons and maybe even a conference title, but thats about it
As for recruiting they have signed 4 straight bad classes and with sanctions coming i don't see that changing..
As long as Al Golden and DiNofrio are running Miami, they will be average. Average coaches equal average team.
Nee is right about defense, but if they start keeping the Keith Bryant's home too--if they really can build that fence, and Coley is the guy to do it--it's national title city.
I still say South Florida alone has as much talent as California and Texas combined.
Thats just not true.
They haven't shown the ability to do that in a decade. It is a different era of football. Miami doesn't have the finances, facilities or fan support that the other southern schools have. Miami's suck on the recruiting trail for a decade isn't happenstance, nor do I think it improves much more than it is now. Eery school they recruit against has more to sell.
This post was edited by fsukum 16 months ago
With the talent in South Florida, I will always expect them to be an average team at worst, depending on sanctions and conference realignment its hard to say as of now.
Another thing of note. (This is historically based) Miami is not a program where you can have longterm success due to lack of funds to compete on a consistent basis.. When Jerry Jones offered Jimmy Johnson the cash, UM couldn't match. UM also couldn't match the cash that Seattle threw at Dennis Erikson. UM couldn't match the cash offered to Butch Davis even if they tried to get into a bidding war. So you see, if UM even has decent success, it will (especially now that college ball has changed) be short lived. They simply can't pay to keep up. The days where the local Miami high schoolers only being able to see the Canes on tv are long gone. This is a new day. The last time UM had a stronghold on local recruiting, AOL was just getting started.
Except that the "short-run success" you're talking about involved, with each coach, total domination of college football and national titles. That's the nature of the talent down there, though I am pretty open to those suggesting things have changed. I am not immovable on my claim that SF talent outweighs the whole rest of the nation.
This post was edited by googolplex 16 months ago
Not entirely true. Miami had 2 guys from Miami on the 2001 starting offense and 2 guys from Miami on defense, the majority weren't even from Florida, they were from out of state. There were 5 TOTAL guys from Dade and Broward county
QB Ken Dorsey- California
FB Najeh Davenport- North Carolina
HB Clinton Portis- Mississippi
TE Jeremy Shockey- Oklahoma
TE Kellen Winslow Jr.- California
WR Andre Johnson- Miami
WR Daryl Jones- Texas
LT Bryant McKinnie- New Jesey
LG Sherko Haji-Rasouli- Iran
C Brett Romberg- Canada
RG Martin Bibla- New Jersey
RT Joaquin Gonzalez- Miami
RE Andrew Williams- Tampa
DT Matt Walters- Melbourne
DT William Joseph- Miami
LE Jerome McDougle- Pompano Beach
OLB D.J. Williams- California
MLB Jonathan Vilma- Miami
OLB Chris Campbell- Texas
RCB Mike Rumph- Delray Beach
FS Ed Reed- Louisiana
SS James Lewis- New Jersey
LCB Phillip Buchanon- Fort Meyers
The 1991 offense had 1 Miami player, with 2 total Dade/Broward county starters and on defense had 4 Miami players and 4 total Dade/Broward County starters.
QB Gino Torretta- California
FB Stephen McGuire- New York
RB Larry Jones- Gainsville
TE Coleman Bell- Tampa
SE Horace Copeland- Orlando
FL Lamar Thomas- Ocala
WT Leon Searcy- Washington DC
WG Rudy Barber- Auburndale
C Kelvin Harris- Tampa
SG Claude Jones- Ft Lauderdale
ST Mario Cristobal- Miami
RE Rusty Medearis- Missouri
DT Eric Miller- Wellington
DT Anthony Hamlet- Delray Beach
LE Kevin Patrick- Arizona
WLB Jessie Armstead- Texas
MLB Micheal Barrow- Miami
SLB Darrin Smith- Miami
RCB Herbert James- Goulds
LCB Ryan McNeil- Fort Peirce
FS Darryl Williams- Miami
SS Hurlie Brown- Merritt Island
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