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6.5 to 6.4 share but a win is a win. We did with NIU. The SEC should actually take notice-we turn on lots of Tv sets.
the Gator bowl 1.6-yikes.
Also saw that the attendance at the Sugar Bowl was the lowest EVER at a BCS bowl game.....
That is very surprising. The sugar had two brand name programs. We had a directional school for an opponent. The casual fan certainly likes to watch the garnet and gold.
Forget about the SEC we're Big12 bound.
It's been this way for a long time, even when we sucked. People like to watch us play. it's why we have the second highest bowl rating since 2004 (?).
We have a bigger national following. I grew up in the Northeast a Nole fan. My best friend is a UM fan. Two other friends grew up Nole fans. Actually I know a lot of UM/FSU fans from back home. During the UM game this year, yet another friend put a pick on facebook of a local bar and the place was packed with Noles and Canes.
Later when I went to college all the way out near Pittsburgh I met a bunch more Nole fans. We're everywhere. No one likes UF. And why would they?
Impossible, they have the Florida market locked up, adding FSU does nothing for the SEC or any conference for that matter. Gators will probably use excuses such as people were at church or Wednesday was a school night or anything else that will make them mushy skulls happy.
Something to ponder - viewers of particular schools aren't necessarily fans of that school, serious rivals also watch that school. If you counted the total number of games you watched, your favorite school would probably be watched the most, but would the second most watched school be your closest rival(s)? If this were proven correct than ratings wouldn't just show the amount of viewers watching because they like that school, but in addition to those who hate that school. With that logic, since UF's number of boosters is larger than FSU's, would that mean (with a higher rating) that there are more people who hate FSU (who want to watch) than those who hate UF? If in fact true, would that mean we do indeed have good rivalries with large fan bases? IDK, just something to discuss. What say you?
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Not to say that FSU doesn't turn on sets, but I know a lot of people that watched our bowl game to see if the "little guy" could pull off an upset.
Raidingnole ...your wrong , the sec has the fla market but allowing the big 12 to come in and take a share of that market is what can help us w the sec. Adding FSU would lock down the fla market, letting the b12 get us would allow them to steal a large share of the market.
I suspect you are correct but if i was the sEc i would not want the big 12 to plant a flag in the middle of my conference that is as high as my highest flags.
That explains one year. Explain this:
BEST DRAWS — Effects on viewership since 1998
1 USC (10) +28.7%
2 Florida State (12) +22.6%
3 Notre Dame (7) +20.8%
4 Miami (Fla.) (11) +15.7%
5 Michigan (10) +12%
(# of bowls)
Not taking anything away from the Noles "brand" but bowl games are more about match-ups/storylines. Look at FSU last 5 bowls and you will see a trend. This year was vs the little guy....ND last year... Peach Bowl always has HUGE rating because it primetime on NYE..Bowden's last game. Again not taking anything away just stating that it's about matchup most times. Until the BCS is over and bowl ties are we worked some bowls will rate better than others.
You would have a point if the figures weren't based over 15 years. But, with regards to match-ups, it just shows the strength of the FSU brand. People tune in to watch their match-ups; plain and simple.
There was quite the story line between OSU versus UF last year and they drew a 2.2 rating. The Gator bowl this year wasn't too far off.
Really? I know you are correct but really?
I think it is unrealisitc to think FSu increasing ratings for what, at least 15 years in a row now has anything (yes anything) to do with anything other than FSu being in the game. Maybe the number is actually alittle bigger in a fiven year (last year with nd for example) because of the other team. however, FSU is the constant in the analysis.
The who conference realignment analysis is the Uf has florida locked up-not true by the way but does not matter. The proper analysis is "Who turns on the most Tv sets". We turn on as many as oyu or anyone else in the sEc does and UF is the biggest national draw in the sEC. whne negotiating contracts, the advertisors do not care of the Tv is tuned on in Seattle, Miami or ok city. However, the tv set needs to be turned on. That is why A&M and Mizzou combined got you no extra money in your Tv contracts this year.
BRECAUSE THEY DO NOT TURN ON TV SETS. A&M is barely a top 30 draw and i think Mizzou is around 50th.
the analysis, "But our games ar enow in St Louis should have stayed in the pre cable days of 1982." Those arguments eminated form the A&M sid office when they were looking for a place to take them.
Deos the sEc need a team in local moarket to get on the expanded basic packages in agiven location? (assuming teams like uf are willing to give up tier 3 rights) if the answer is no, like it is for the big 10, then the only thing that matters when adding a team is the ratings number.
IMO Uf will lsoe money if it gives up its tier 3 rights to the sEc b/c it will not make 10 million a year off of a SEC network.
I watch uf as little as possible. Their games are usually very boring.
Swampboi, it becomes a chicken and the egg type story and at the end of the day, FSU's brand has to play a part in it. How much the match-up/storyline is attractive to casual CFB fans/viewers is dependent on FSU's brand...as it is on the opponent, as well.
But I want to know does the brand create the storyline or does the storyline create the brand??????
I give FSU fans credit bc they'll travel and watch the Noles bowl games unlike UF fans. If UF isn't playing in the NC game or in Orlando/Tampa our fans don't seem to care. Was in NO for Sugar Bowl and was shocked how this was more of a home game for L'ville. You would think after the results of the last two season that Gators fans would have packed the Dome for an 11 win team.
That's not why your bowl rating are lower.
Thanks for all the excuses. However, these numbers looked at viewership INCREASES in bowl games over previous years. It shows that FSU's brand turns on more TV sets. Other teams play Notre Dame in bowl games. Other teams play in the Chick-fil-A Bowl in the same time slot. Other teams have played BCS busters in BCS Bowl games. Regardless, FSU ALWAYS manages bigger and better ratings in these games.
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