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On Jox 94.5 has a caller who is laying it out, how Bama players bought PEDS from him and how they have agents etc... Pretty deep stuff.
The University of Alabama said Tuesday that the company which says it provided a product containing a banned substance to Baltimore Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis also contacted its players prior to the 2012 BCS championship game against LSU.
This post was edited by noleschamps 15 months ago
Its still on, its now a commercial. Tune in on your computer. Guy seems to know his stuff
Cant listen while at work, can you post cliff notes?
He named several players, Andre Smith cant remember who else. Got into how he helped NFL teams etc. Basically its hitting the fan.
His name is Mitch and works for Swatz (spelling?)
I'm pretty sure that the NCAA can't legally prohibit you from "purchasing" a legal substance, even if it is banned by the NCAA. The violation occurs upon the "usage" of a banned substance.
To prove usage, you need positive drug tests... Of which, the NCAA has none. (you can refer to my post in the other Bama/NCAA as to why they will never be able to test for PEDs)
In other words, this is irrelevant and going no where, unless I'm missing something?
Honestly, some caller that is an Auburn fan that works at the QT in Northport is not a source.
I am not saying Bama is clean, I just am dubious that calllers into talk shows are sources for anything of value..
I do think this is going to give Bama a black eye. And possibly have the NCAA start testing for PEDS (if its possible)
This guy is a dealer, worked in the NFL, worked with MLB and has his own stores. Claims to have the miracle drug. He is part of the Deer spray stuff coming out. Like I said take it for what its worth............
I don't see it giving them a black eye considering at least 25% of us probably just figured that they were on some form of PEDs.
What is stopping the owners of these companies from creating purely ficticious orders from "celebrities".... in an effort to seek national attention purely to boost sales?
Pure logic here, but you will never encounter a "drug dealer" who thinks it's a good idea to release their purchasers names (without having a legal reason to do it). If their product works, it sells itself through word of mouth. Releasing the names of the people purchasing a banned product for PR = why in the hell would any future person purchasing said product in the future TRUST that you aren't going to release their name?
This is the most BS smoking gun ever. It reminds me of the PT Barnum quote, "There's a sucker born every minute"
The bastards are speaking openly, and dropping the name of their company every 15 seconds while doing it... and the press is feeding this stupidity.
This post was edited by FsuFanForever 15 months ago
what deer spray stuff?
Story circulating about Ray Lewis supposedly using this deer antler spray to recover during his injury. Doctors have come out and said already it would be ineffective as a spray. Vijay Singh also came out recently and said he used the deer antler compound, which PED's are banned by the PGA.
GO NOLES! / SCALP EM!
But many PEDs are considered illegal substances. Not sure, aside from deer antler spray, what they allegedly took. Steroids are banned substances, unless prescribed by a doctors.
I hope this blows up in Bama's face.
"I never knew I had a foot until I noticed it was on your neck"
If Andre Smith was getting them, he wasn't getting the right ones....
Draft Analyst Mike Mayock of NFL Network rips on Cincinnati Bengals Offensive Tackle Andre Smith and his workout. Looks like Smith needs rehab and Jenny Crai...
Everyones knows they're using. LSU too. USC when Caroll was there and probably still. We have guys here and there im sure.
I don't think it is possible to test for them. Like another poster said, you'd have to be in possession of the actual needles used during the injection of the PEDs with a players blood on them, ala Roger Clemons, to even have a chance of busting someone. On the other hand, you can test for steroids...
I don't think this is going anywhere, but the NCAA does not need positive proof from a test.
The words of the seller, sales slips, records of packages mailed, etc. would do just fine for the NCAA.
Compared to cheating in a music appreciation course, using PEDs are much more inside the lines for the NCAA.
There's a story about it now on espn.com in the college football section. If a doctor from Johns Hopkins says it can't be delivered by a spray, than it can't be delivered by a spray.
NCAA rule = you can't cheat on test
And several people give testimony that they witnessed you cheating, help you cheat, and heard you bragging about it.... they have met the burden of proof that you violated the rule.
NCAA rule = you can't take PEDs
And several people give testimony that you ordered PEDs, took a package from a fedex guy...but they could find no one who witnessed you actually take them and you've never tested positive. They have not met the burden of proof.
NCAA's burden of proof is not as loose as you hear parrots sqwaking... they aren't some rogue idiots, just make up the rules are they go along... The NCAA's burden of proof is pretty damn similiar to our CIVIL legal system (90% certainty)...If they set their "buden of proof" weaker than our civil system, they would constantly be sued.... and have damn near every decision they come to overturned by a real court. The reason that doesn't happen, is because they can produce enough evidence to meet the real courts burden of proof.
Oh snap. The players used in front of him? If there are other witnesses who are willing to testify to this... the NCAA may meet it's 90% likely threshold.
That article is the first indication that Alabama may need to be worried.
Everyone and anyone who has watched college ball for the past decade can see that PED's and cheating are part of the SEC culture. It's in their DNA. Anyone watch the BCS game? Does anyone think their strength and conditioning program is that much better than ND's? Come on man!
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