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If the state continues defunding higher education, there's next to a zero percent chance. My former grad program was one of the best amongst its peers at FSU (number 11 nationally). With the state's financial issues, many of the best professors have gone out of state to elite schools and the department has been weakened. I believe that is happening university wide and at other Florida schools.
Money makes the world go round, and we need more of it.
This post was edited by JeffSpicNolie 23 months ago
First UCF needs to pass USF. Atm UCF is USF's little brother. Although both are in the top 10 for largest University's in the nation.
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So is Miami Dade Community College...
lol funny but not true.
Funny and true. Miami Dade's enrollment is larger than UF, FSU, and UCF combined.
USf is a commuter school without there own stadium. Ucf has a much better campus and their own stadium. It makes the student experience better and that breeds a better overall student base. Once the students who have that experience (think fsu from Bowden on) graduate they become boosters because they enjoyed football in college.
At usf, you have to drive 15 or 20 min away from campus to go to a game in a half filled stadium. USf is like a mini miami but ucf is the school set up to capitalize the most from a miami sanction.
Ucf could completely screw this up. It's kind of like a high potential recruit. The kid could get arrested and become nothing.
Ucf could hire a terrible coach and remain average. If they get the right staff to focus on recruiting the right kids they are a sleeping giant
150k active students on the Dade CC campus lol?
Screw that. USF has the crown jewel of the NFL outdoor stadiums and you can drink beer there. UCF has a tiny little stadium that is laughable in big boy CFB.
Yea eventually when they have 30 years of success and 5 NCs. U think the top kids from down here would choose fiu over the U?
Not a community college anymore, hasn't been for years now
Miami Dade has 100k credit students, 43k taking night classes, and 30k recreational students (whatever that is).
So at minimum, they have more than UF and UCF combined, and are easily one of the top 10 largest colleges in the country as I claimed with 100k students.
Btw UCF and USF's enrollments are also likely skewed up by adults taking night classes.
F that. Miami Dade, FSCJ, etc are all still community colleges. They just got the legislature to change their names to attempt to get rid of the CC stigma.
I just know in 2010 or 2011 that USF had 48k+ and UCF had 54k idr. UCF was #2 and USF was #8 I believe back then as far as top 10 largest population for University's'. UCF has grown and might have overtaken the #1 spot from tOSU. They now have 58k.
If they had a football team they'd be the top CC in the nation.
No doubt. I'd bet the state legislature would never let that happen, because it would make it easier for high school football players to slack off and take that route instead of going to FSU, UF, Miami, etc.
Hillsborough Community College says hold up. They have almost 50k students lol
Eventually, yes. The 5 rangs will only last so long. Teams like Illinois, Minnesota, Pittsburgh, Penn, Cal have more national championships than miami. You see their place now in college football. The 30 years is assuming UM still in fact has a football program. UM has serious financial issues that put the survival of the school in jeopardy (i know plenty of people connected with high levels at the school)
Your also dealing with the extremely fickle south florida fanbase and market. If Fiu consistently wins and UM consistently sucks, in 30 or so years, yes, absolutely, kids will gladly choose FIU over UM
Since when dis student population become indicative of a quality school. I bet a lot if their students grew up FSU, UF and Miami fans, but didn't get in there. They settled with UCF. I know that's the case with my friends, anyways.
If you were able to read you wouldn't need to ask that question.
All I'm going to say is the ONLY group of people that think UCF is better than USF is UCF. AT BEST, the two are viewed as relative equals. At worst, USF is substantially ahead of UCF in football and has a med schools that's better than any program UCF can offer.
UCF is also huge because all the local community colleges funnel the kids there. It angered almost everyone in the counselors office that I went to FSU instead of UCF.
You have Seminole State, Daytona State, Brevards, Sumter and Valencia all funneling kids there. Hell, UCF even has classes on the Seminole State campuses.
In 30 years Miami could be 40+ years removed from its last national title, 50+ years removed from its heyday in the 80's while FIU will have 40 years of football-watching alumni taking a large portion of the Miami market away from UM. Let's not forget that FIU is expected to be 3-4 times as large as UM in 30 years and that their Med and Law Schools will be long-established by then as well.
Miami never had any competition from within its own city for high school recruits, doctors, lawyers and many other college-trained professionals.
Maybe eventually. We would really need to ramp up the research at our Med School and other STEM-oriented programs. Given the economy, the way Florida funds higher education, and that even with quality hires and facilities investments by FSU it would be a few years to see a major spike in approved research grants and improved reputation, I'd say 20-30 years would be a realistically aggressive timeframe.
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