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Pretty excited to see these two starting this season compared to Amp McCloud and Everette Dawkins. Not a knock against the former Noles, as both did a serviceable job manning the middle for us the past two-seasons. But let's be honest, both Dawkins and McCloud hit their ceilings during the 2011-12 season. Neither took their game to the next level last season, but did a solid job none the less for our defense. I think a lot of that had to do with Dawkins reaching his physical limits as to how much weight he could hold without losing his end athleticism that he brought with him from Byrnes. I don't think Amp was ever 100% healthy last season, or 100% in shape either.
Goldman and Jernigan are both first day NFL prospects. This will be Jernigan's final season in a Seminole jersey, so this is his 'money year' Expect to see him attack a lot more this season, especially with a 330 pound Eddie Goldman next to him commanding double teams at the NT position. That will give Jernigan a lot more 1-on-1 battles in the trenches, and I think anyone [rivals included] would put their $ on Jernigan winning more of those battles than losing. If Jernigan can stay healthy, I think it's a safe assumption that he'll be 2nd team All-Conference at worst, and could potentially be on a few All-American lists depending on how much we rotate him out this year.
There aren't a lot of teams out there that can make claim to having the No.1 defensive tackle in consecutive years lining up next to one another in the starting rotation. It sucks that we will only get to witness it for one season, but it should be a pretty good one for both of them and our defense in general with the attack mentality that will be in place.
So Jernigan is a 3 tech and Goldman is a nose?
I would bet McAlister starts opposite Jernigan as its a money yr for him also. Goldman will get a lot of snaps though
I don't see how McAlister would be benched. I don't think it matters though, Goldman will play a lot. This is the best interior DL in the nation.
Mcallister really came onlast year. It doesn't matter which one of him or Goldman starts, were going to have a dominant interior d-line and it will be fun to watch. If Edwards comes on this year and plays to his potential, we will have an outstanding front 4 again.
I'm really beginning to look forward to our defense next year. I'm excited to see us be a little more agressive
I agree with the majority I do not see Goldman starting. I think Jernigan is a lock and McCallister will be tough to beat out. Jaccobi, NLS and Mitchell will all be key members of the rotation. I think Goldman will see the most time as the DT (strongside DE in 3-4, what Ngata plays with the Ravens).
Speaking of Jacobi, I really wish he would have moved to center. I personally believe he would have been great there
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Just a kid who was overrated coming out of high school. Never should have been a 5-star due to his limitation in size [5'11. 6'0, with T-Rex arms], and him having a ceiling cap on his potential as a player at the next level.
Not to mention he tries to slim down in the off-season to fit designer clothes that they don't sell in 'defensive tackle' sizes. Jernigan and Goldman are goons who don't care about polo shirts.
Don't see him making much of an impact this season either even though he will get his reps as the 4th or 5th option.
McDaniel looks like a true DT now......best he's looked since he's been here.
McDaniel's injuries didn't help either.
I thought Jernigan was at nose with Goldman at DT. Doesn't really matter as our tackles are going to mess some fools up this year. Whenever I think of Timmy now, I see him slamming that OL into the ground. Also, don't forget about Derrick Mitchell
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Yeah, and the level he was playing before he got hurt in 2011 was very good.
His size doesn't impede him from being a great 3 tech. He's very well suited to the position.
Goldman is a 3 tech, and Jernigan is a nose. We're not a 2 gap team, and Goldman is better suited to be a 1 gap player. He's too explosive to be forced to sit and 2 gap. He's a rare player that can be an explosive 3 tech at 310-320.
I don't care where Jernigan and Goldman lineup, TBH
Both are starting this season, because both are our two best interior lineman.
That doesn't mean McAllister and Stample won't see a lot of reps, because they will, since we not only rotate at a high rate, but because the nature of the position will ding our guys up at some point during the year.
You start McAllister over either of the two and you sacrifice NFL size/strength/athleticism for a pass rushing specialist who is average against the run. Now I think McAllister will butter his bread on 3rd and long situations, as well as be the first guy to sub in whenever Goldman/Jerningan need a break.
Just my OPINION.
J-Mac, his time has come and gone, injuries and better recruiting pushed him to the back of the bus. He'll be a serviceable player for us this season, but be honest with yourselves -- He's 4TH at best, and Stample has been blowing up since last year [one of the most talked about players in practice from the defensive side.]
Odell will play his best guys, and not the guy who couldn't catch a break because of injuries, or whatever reason you want to list. He [JMac] simply isn't our best option no longer.
This is a good thread.
I felt that FSU's strength on the interior line in recent seasons was due to depth more than sheer talent -- they just had so many guys available.
This year, FSU seems to have a ton of depth and a ton of talent. It should be pretty fun to watch. Say what you want about Jacobbi McDaniel, and I don't know for sure where he fits in this season, but when he's the fourth or fifth best option, that's a good sign.
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Bushido, if you are right then I will be absolutely stoked to see Goldman and Timmy starting. I think Mccalister will start though until otherwise stated just because last season Timmy wasn't starting.
Totally agree. Hopefully, in the 3-4 looks, Pruitt will employ 1 gap responsibilities to take advantage of the explosiveness of players like Jernigan, McAllister, and Goldman.
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Jernigan will start at NG & McAllister will start at DT.
There is so much talent behind them that it will be interesting to see them fight for reps.
Goldman & NLS will play a ton.
McDaniel should be a factor.
Mitchell seems like he has emerged during the spring.
Shanks also brings a ton of size.
might have already been discussed, but I think Jernigan comes back his senior year unless he plays much better this year
I think DM starts over Goldman, but what a 3 man rotation!! I too think this is Jernigan's last year as a 'Nole. I think if he plays as a starter the way he's played as a sub he's a 1st round lock.
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Jernigan is the NG and Demonte is the 3-tech. Those are the starters, but they will rotate so often it will not matter. Great depth here...
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This! You sacrifice size essentially at two positions if you start Jernigan at NG and Demonte at 3 tech on base downs. It makes a lot more sense to line up a bigger body alongside Jernigan for run stuffing purposes and then bring in D-Mac to make splash plays once you've leverage the opposing offense into long yardage situations. Just my $.02
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We will definitely have to agree to disagree. I love what Jernigan and McAllister bring when working together. They disrupt the flow of the offense with penetration. They led all interior linemen in sacks and TFL in limited snaps. Hopefully, there are more 1 gap assignments to allow even more of that. Plus, with the constant rotating that Odell uses, you get that dynamic you speak of with 300+ pounders Stample and Goldman.
Holy shit reading the replies in this post discussing how we are going to get all these studs on the field has me licking my chops for next season. What an embarrassment of riches.
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