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This topic has gotten so out of hand. Look, unless Jimbo churns out like 3 straight 6 win seasons he will keep his job. And I seriously doubt that he will ever do that. Sit back and seriously think for a moment. Try to name at least 7-10 coaches that are better than Jimbo AND attainable. You can't. You can leave off the attainable part and I am hard pressed to even name 7 coaches that are better than Jimbo in general.
Like earlier posters have said, Jimbo has not reached his ceiling. I think if he molded a play caller or was able to get a good one to come here, that would improve things. Tweak your strategy on OL recruiting and become more dominant there and Jimbo would be an elite head coach. I personally believe we will see both of those days in his tenure. He just needs to become a better CEO. He has all the qualities but he just puts too much on his plate I think.
Jimbo gets me mad as hell at times just like many of you, but when you sit back and think rationally, you can't argue with the results. The man has turned the program around completely. Unless your definition of success was winning 7 games and going to the music city bowl
Everything everyone said is true. And it is also true the Jimbo's seat could be hot after next year. If we were to have at least 2 coaches bolt I think Jimbo's seat is hot unless we have a great year.
Another NCST type loss and his seat gets hot unless he finishes 11-1.
only a blind person could not see the fact there is tension between Jimbo and the BOT's after he made a play for a raise and the BOT emphatically said no and btw you need to get a real OC if you want an extension.
a real ad would be the necessary filter but we have Spetman. However, an ad may push for some more changes to the football program & that would not be well received by Jimbo.
And there are the rubber chicken circuit issues...which are bigger than generally thought and can lead to a reduction of contributions. Not saying have, saying can.
Again, an ad could smooth over ruffled feathers.
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Sooooooo...looks like we're all in agreement here.
OP needs medication.
We could have gotten an established hc that had proven himself somewhere.
That is one of the other issues: IMO a majority of boosters and current BOT people wanted to go that direction and pay Jimbo off. Jimbo has never been universally accepted by the boosters and BOT. They thought correctly we could have gotten an established HC so crap like NCST, Wake & UVA does not happen,
In essence. Let our hc get his growing pains out of the way before he gets here. We certainly could have gotten such an hc. Instead, TK makes the Faustian bargain so Jimbo does not go to WVU and essentially eliminates the possibility.
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lulz Oregon's boosters have been critical calling for a new HC the last few years, lets see how they fair losing a good coach.
Fisher s doing well, with a play calling OC I can see us consistently fighting in the playoffs and NCG.
Faustian? Hyperbole much?
What fsugeo said........Geeezzzzz.
this board could use more hyperbole
I assume that is your way of backing off the original comment?
Yes. That's exactly what we need. More reactionary hyperbole. Because no one tires of reading hyperdrama (which is probably a more apt description).
"It's not the SEC conference vs. the ACC conference," "It's Florida State vs. Auburn." --Lamarcus Joyner
And thereby Geo pushes his advantage.
Remember 2009? 3 years later we're a recruiting juggernaut, winning 10 games per year, just won our conference for the first time in 7 years and won our first BCS bowl in a looooooong time. Not to mention being 7-2 v. our 3 biggest rivals. I think we were 2-7 v. our biggest rivals the 3 years before that.
No, what I stated is accurate. People are losing sight of the forest for the trees.
The actual win -loss total matters but is not the only factor.
Quite frankly, the only factor that matters is money. As in, when will boosters that matter start sitting on their wallets.
The last time they did it almost en masse was 2006 and Jeffy was let go as a result.
That is why I mentioned Jimbo's relationship with the BOT and boosters. It is bad. Most of it IMO is on Jimbo.
What does that mean? That the threshold for people sitting on their wallets is lower than it should be given the state of the program.
Some boosters, Bot members are concerned that coaches will take any tolerable job just so they can leave his staff. Ergo, they do not believe he can maintain a stable program. Personally, I do not share this view.
Job, through Sexton, Jimbo pissed over the BOT specifically about the "Everyone in the world wants Jimbo hogwash.
A. Muschamp did not pull the same crap after doing, arguably much better than Jimbo this year so it was clear this was at least sanctioned by Jimbo.
B. Dave Hart cannot stand Jimbo. Cannot stand him. That is common knowledge with anyone who knew anyone in the adm whole Hart was still here. He was completely against even inferring to Jimbo he could be hc when he came here. He wAs against continuing to pursue Jimbo after FSU broke off talks with Sexton after Sexton overplayed his hand during the Jimbo-Trickett hunting trip.
So when the constant, " Jimbo's the hot name at Tenn. etc.As a BOT member said to me "Either Sexton has the world's shortest memory or he thinks the BOT is a collective of idiots." We (members of the BOT) know that Hart would hire an hs coach from Tennessee before he would give Jimbo the job.
Remember Tennessee went to choice #6 and had never asked permission to interview Jimbo- which Hart would have done.
Honestly, Jimbo burned a couple of bridges using this tactic a part of the strategy to get a pay raise.
All of this has nothing to do with wins and losses yet could directly affect the contributions if things go a little South on the football field. By a little probably 4 losses.
We went 12-2, won a BCS bowl but Jimbo has actually lost some good will and now has more doubters than he did 12 months ago and the only thing that lead to these issues that is an on field issue is his refusal to get a real OC.
Yes, Petrino and Spurrier can both effective at both. That does not matter, because Jimbo can't at this point in his career. I do not think he will ever effective at being both but it is only the here and now that matters on that issue.
So, those who focus on the w-l record we not analyzing most of the factors that lead to Jimbo's job security.
FSU doesn't have the financial ability to fire a coach with years left on a contract because despite winning 10 games a year some people in the "organization" don't like the coach.
If those people are sitting on their money it is even less likely to happen.
I wish FSU would have had an open search for a head coach when Bowden left. What I don't assume is that FSU would have hired someone with previous experience and/or success.
UF is a more attractive job nationally than FSU and twice in the last 10 years they hired coaches who had no head coaching experience. Firing a guy who averages 10 wins a season probably isn't going to bode well for experienced successful coaches wanting to come into that hot seat.
If we can win or go to the ACC title game 8/10 years, and the orange bowl 3/5 i am fine with it.
10 wins a year is beyond fine to me, as horrible and mad at the playcalling, misuse of talent, and personnel problems can get.
If we start to have consistent 8 win seasons and miss ACC titles, losing to teams we have no business losing to on top of all that, then by all means show him the door.
HEAR! HEAR!...wish I had said that.
Just curious, assuming Jimbo (Sexton) did burn a few bridges in December, (not arguing with you) do you think he can rebuild them at any point?
And I don't mean by going 14-0
Interested in your opinion
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