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Okay - in response to the debate over whether you guys can compete in the SEC (and whether or not we could, too), I've decided to apply logic and a points system to see how the teams stack up. Points are either gained or lost based upon win/loss, with more points going to better opponents. Also, we've taken spread into account to tackle performance.
We're not trying to reinvent the wheel, but at the same time, hopefully we can help bring logic and fairness to the debate.
Check it out and let me know your thoughts.
This post was edited by The TigerSwag 19 months ago
Interesting, but bogus.
EJ slid when he could have easily scored.
Michigan may not finish top 4, so a lot of these are projections.
The spread means squat to the coaches.
You're not accounting for youth on the FSU OL, and I know this chart shows standing if they cut everything off today, but the competition ought to be worried, because by the end of the season the OL will have tripled their game experience. FSU will bs ready to take on all comers.
Very interesting, but the spread shouldn't be a part of the equation. The spread is some arbitrary number dreamt up by Vegas odds makers. It doesn't have any impact on the actual game.
From top to bottom the SEC is better than the ACC. However, FSU (until proven otherwise) is a notch below Bama and LSU and a notch above Georgia, South Carolina, and UF.
"I never knew I had a foot until I noticed it was on your neck"
I agree EJ or any other back from FSU could have scored to cover the spread, but you can't analyze everything and I drew the line at spread. Also, shouldu
Michigan not be a top 4 team, the points will shift accordingly. Same for Wake and you guys.
Thanks for the feedback.
Thanks for the feedback. I wa.Ted to include some metric of how a team performs against an opponent and the spread seemed like a reasonable method. To me, LSU squeaking by Auburn should not be the same as you guys destroying Wake or UGA crushing.Vandy.
I don't know that we're a notch below LSU. I don't think they're on a level with Alabama, or even us right now with their complete inability to throw a forward pass.
I agree on LSU. I think they are rated too high. Top 3 defense, but they play offense like we play defense.
Interesting. I am not sure how you come this the second conclusion of this statement based upon your first conclusion in the prior in this portion below-->
It shows FSU would be sixth in the SEC, if all ended now. But because of the small sample size, FSU is a late Clemson touchdown from being at 29 and tied for first with Florida. As the sample size increases, we should see a better representation of each team and their potential. We'll continue to monitor the results to see how the teams stack up against each other.
All things considered, based upon current opponents, I think the argument can be made that FSU is not on par with the upper tier of the SEC.
Huh? You just said FSU is a late TD against clemson (really just 2 missed FG's and a muffed punt, but I digress) from being on top with UF, but then say they aren't on part with the top of the SEC? Sorry but that doesn't make sense!
The last line was twofold - one to show that the system needs more data points and how much performance in a big game can swing things, and two some of my opinion. I probably need to clean that part up a bit.
Over the season, as teams get more and better opponents, it will be interesting to see how everyone stacks up.
This isn't response to this thread, but I hope you guys can run the table and win a bitg bowl game (BCS?).
Would help the ACC's perception more than anything.
Because of your defense, I worry about your games with GT and USCe.
Thanks. I kinda hope we do too.
Same for you guys. But if you should get tripped up once, the selfish side in me hope it happens a second time as well...
Bama is on a different level than everyone... but I think we match-up well with them.
Our offense would do well against their D. I don't think Clemson or Oregon would do as well against their physical 3-4.
Our D excels against a pro style offense, like Bama. McCarron doesn't scare anyone. I just think Bama's OL would do well blocking the Jaguars or Colts DL. I've never seen an OL better in college. The key to their success.
Scalp 'Em Seminoles!!!
I think you are selling Bama short. They are clearly better than us, maybe 7-9 pt favorites at a neutral site. They have the #1 OL in college football (as you mentioned), have a great running game, and have an elite defense as well.
That being said, I see us beating Oregon/LSU/WVU 6+ times out of 10, and I think we make a legit case for #2. The other teams are ahead, but if we win out we finish no worse than #3, and we may have the name recognition to get the nod over Oregon.
May find ourselves 5th or 6th in the first BCS poll if theses same teams keep up winning. Popular vote only accounts for so much, then the computers kick in.
This post was edited by OCnole 19 months ago
LSU and Auburn have to be two of the most garbage teams that I've seen. If it weren't for their defenses they would have no chance against decent teams.
I agree on LSU. They will get exposed at some point this year, especially having a 1st year qb
Why does everyone say Bama is ona different level?
Their one "name" win was against Michigan, and as we now see, Michigan barely beat Air Force (sans Jets mind you) and lost in a game in which ND was far more physical.
If we played Michigan we'd probably beat them as bad as Bama did.
I think Denard Robinson is more fluff than anything else.
Because Bama is on a different level?
For the record, I think we are on their level right now.
This post was edited by equanole 19 months ago
Because they've won 2 NCs in three years, and have a HC who won another about a decade ago, and because they recruit as well as any one in the country, and because everyone they've played this year they have rolled.
If Bama isn't on a different level, give me an example of who is.
What do you think would happen if Bama hosted Clemson?
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