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"The measure of a man is what he does with power."
Are we really done being matched up with the Big East?
23,000 dolphins are killed every year in Japan. For pest control. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KRD8e20fBo
I know, I was so sad to see that too
Yes, but for $25 Million less than the Big 4 conferences.
Swofford has lost at every step compared to the Big 4. Why do FSU fans believe FSU football is safe in the ACC? It is the next Big East.......teams will be fielded....but they will NOT compete for national titles in the future. Maybe at that point RIGHT now. Yet we still have FSU fans that seem more loyal to this horrible conference.
Woah woah woah. Not loyal to ACC, just FSU. I would love for us to get into the Big 12 or Sec.
The linked article states that the money will be split between the ACC and whichever conference the second team belongs to. If the the other team is in the SEC, that's $67.5 million in guaranteed "contract bowl" money to be split amongst the SEC's 14 members (the Sugar Bowl is reportedly worth $40 million apiece to the SEC and the Big 12). The ACC is only guaranteed $27.5 million. If my math is correct, that's a difference of about $2.8 million per team per year. The financial gulf between the ACC and SEC is continuing to grow.
Honestly that's irrelevant.
The ACC is only guaranteed $27.5M in the 4 non-playoff "BCS" bowls each year.
The Big Ten and SEC will now be guaranteed $40M every year and $67.5M in years they place a team in the Orange.
In other words, the ACC still blows. That's not even including the extra money those conferences will receive by most likely sending more teams to the playoff than the ACC.
I've seen nothing encouraging at all with football in the acc. Apparantly Notre Dame bent Swofford over at the expense of the existing members as well. When ND makes the Orange what is their split? This league is depressing.
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F the ACC!
My only point was that we won't be stuck playing Louisville or Boise State forever haha.
It didn't say specifically, just said that it would be a "significant amount less" than the 50/50 split the SEC or B1G would receive. Still can't believe we got stuck in this garbage conference. Like I didn't already hate ND and the ACC enough.
I agree with your general premise, but I'd actually like to play Boise
Ive seem it said that we would challenge the $50m in court. Makes sense as that seems ridiculous. You cant just hurry through some ridiculous figure like that voted on by the very schools who are getting a free ride on our backs.
Jeez...were getting socialism crammed down our throat at the vote of freeloaders at every turn.
The Atlantic Coast Conference and the Orange Bowl Committee announced today that the Discover Orange Bowl will annually feature the ACC Champion against an opponent from the Big Ten Conference, Southeastern Conference or University of Notre Dame as part of the 12-year agreement that begins following the 2014 season. In addition, ESPN will serve as the broadcast partner, and the historic bowl game will either be played in an exclusive prime-time window New Year’s Eve or on New Year’s Day, pending the schedule of the new collegiate postseason playoff games.
The selection of the opponent will be based on the guiding principle of securing the highest-ranked team in the final standings available from the Big Ten, SEC or Notre Dame, but will also utilize criteria that shares the minimum appearance standards as agreed upon by all parties. The standards include at least three guaranteed appearances over the 12 years for both the Big Ten and the SEC and a maximum of two with no minimum for Notre Dame.
“We are pleased to have finalized our long-term partnership which brings tremendous exposure and value to the ACC and our member institutions,” said ACC Commissioner John Swofford. “The Discover Orange Bowl has a rich history of prestige and featuring our teams against opponents from the Big Ten, SEC and potentially Notre Dame provides attractive matchups year in and year out. The opportunity to partner with ESPN to showcase the game on either New Year’s Eve or New Year’s Day provides us with a terrific way for fans to ring in the New Year in South Florida.”
”The Orange Bowl Committee is truly excited about the completion of our bowl matchup with the ACC Champion by solidifying that their opponent will be from either the Big Ten, SEC or Notre Dame, at a special time of year in beautiful South Florida. Undoubtedly this arrangement will provide tremendous national visibility and generate significant economic impact to the South Florida Community,” said O. Ford Gibson, Orange Bowl Committee president and chair. “The Orange Bowl values our special partnership with the Atlantic Coast Conference, as we are looking forward to strengthening our already deep relationships with the Big Ten, SEC and Notre Dame.”
“Our continued media partnership with ESPN is of great importance to the Discover Orange Bowl property,” said Eric Poms, Orange Bowl Committee chief executive officer. “The worldwide leader in sports brings the optimal platform to annually showcase one of college football’s great traditions.”
“A game pitting the ACC champion against the SEC, Big Ten or Notre Dame ensures a great match up for sports fans,” said John Skipper, ESPN President. “The Orange Bowl has a great history and we are very proud to be part of extending that into the next decade.”
"We are very excited to reach agreement with the ACC to provide a highly regarded football opponent at the Orange Bowl following select seasons from 2014-2026," said Big Ten Commissioner James E. Delany. "The ACC plays great college football and our fans have a deep respect for the historic Orange Bowl tradition. If previous Orange Bowl appearances are any indicator, I am confident that our fans will travel in great numbers to South Florida; and that those who can't be there in person, will tune in to ESPN to watch these exciting postseason contests."
“The tradition of the SEC playing in the Orange Bowl began over 75 years ago and since that time we have played in 39 Orange Bowls,” said SEC Commissioner Mike Slive. “We are pleased to renew this long standing relationship with the Orange Bowl and appreciate having the opportunity to compete in front of a national audience on ESPN against the ACC.”
“The Orange Bowl qualifies as one of the most prestigious events in college football’s postseason and Notre Dame has played a part in that history, three times playing number-one ranked teams in our five previous appearances,” said Notre Dame Athletic Director Jack Swarbrick. “We are honored to partner with two of the premier conferences, the SEC and the Big Ten, to make certain the ACC will have a top-flight opponent on a regular basis.”
As was previously released, the ACC selected the Discover Orange Bowl to be its annual contract bowl partner, serving as the home of the ACC Champion in the new postseason college football arrangement recently announced by the BCS Presidential Oversight Committee. If the ACC Champion is identified as one of the top four teams by the Bowl Championship Series selection committee, then the ACC Champion will participate in the national semifinals and a replacement team from the ACC would participate in the Discover Orange Bowl.
In addition to the partnership between the ACC and the Orange Bowl Committee, it is anticipated that the Orange Bowl will host at least four semifinal games in the new postseason college football structure. In the years that the Orange Bowl serves as a semifinal host, the ACC Champion would then participate in one of the three host bowls that will be established as per the direction of the BCS Presidential Oversight Committee.
The Discover Orange Bowl has been the home of the ACC Champion since 2006 and in the first seven years of partnership, five different ACC teams have competed. Throughout the 78-year history, nine of the current ACC institutions have played in at least one Orange Bowl.
About the Atlantic Coast Conference
The Atlantic Coast Conference is now in its 60th year of competition, the ACC has long enjoyed the reputation as one of the strongest and most competitive intercollegiate conferences in the nation. Since the league’s inception in 1953, ACC schools have captured 127 national championships, including 67 in women’s competition and 60 in men’s. In addition, NCAA individual titles have gone to ACC student-athletes 145 times in men’s competition and 104 times in women’s action. For more information, visit theACC.com.
About the Orange Bowl
The Orange Bowl is a 348-member, primarily-volunteer non-profit sports organization that promotes and serves the South Florida community. The Orange Bowl Festival features a year-round schedule of events culminating with the Discover Orange Bowl on January 1, 2013 and the Discover BCS National Championship on January 7, 2013. Other Orange Bowl core events include the MetroPCS Orange Bowl Basketball Classic, Orange Bowl Youth Football Alliance presented by Sports Authority, Orange Bowl International Tennis Championships, Orange Bowl Sailing Regatta Series and Orange Bowl Paddle Championships. For more information on the 2012-13 Orange Bowl Festival and its events, including promotional and volunteer opportunities through the Ambassador Program, log on to www.orangebowl.org.
Chris Nee of 247Sports.com. You can follow me on twitter @CNee247.
I get that. But it's still irrelevant.
Notre Dame can only be the ACC opponent, it CANNOT take the ACC place in the bowl. That is part of the arrangement. However, I agree the contract and setup still "blows" compared to the others. Somebody come up with $50 mill or so right quick!
This is the nail in the coffin when it comes to FSU and conference realignment.
In regard to the playoffs, the ACC is in. FSU's admin won't let us leave.
My concerns is that networks are treating the ACC as a red headed step child when it comes to money.
Money isn't important to the other teams in the ACC (minus Clemson). Other teams don't recruit against the other power conferences the way FSU and Clemson do.
This is a slippery slope FSU is on these days.
"Sometimes when you bring the thunder, you get lost in the storm." -Kenny Powers
Because it is. Not saying you believe this, but why should 90% of these ACC schools be paid like they actually matter in football? They don't. You can't justify paying them like a Big Ten, Pac 12, SEC or Big 12 school.
Overall I don't think the ACC is as bad as most pundits and SEC a**clowns think it is (aside from this year), but even if it is generally better than what people give it credit for, it's still no better than 5th best.
The acc is just a really not in our best interest - at least for football money and prestige. We have to split lower payouts with schools like Wake or Duke who spend very little on football compared to FSU & Clemson. We spend the money to play big boy football and they benefit by splitting so we all get $1.96M per.
The Rose and Sugar bowls will split $80 million to the BIG/PAC and SEC/BIG 12 (the Big 12 makes $40M for 10 teams -$4 million per team & SEC $40M for 14 Teams -$2.9M per team).
And that is the "best case" for the first several years...the Orange is the only Bowl in the contract bowls that will have an"average of" amount. That means it starts out lower and increases--so over the length of the contract it will have an "average of " $55 million, whereas the Rose and Sugar PAY $80 million per year
Whats that payout going to be then in the first few years?
When Notre Dame gets matched up with us in the Orange Bowl we have to split the payout with the ACC and it's teams. Notre Dame has to split with no one so what is their payout? The press release only says "significantly less" than what the SEC/Big 10 would split. Supposedly the figure Notre Dame gets is around $15M (I really hope that's just speculatory BS).
If true if we were to play Notre Dame in the Orange:
A $55M total minus the $15M payout to Notre Dame = $40M split between 14 teams = $2.9M per team.
FSU's payout would be $2.9M while Notre Dames payout is $15M????
Maybe it's not true but sure would like to know why what Notre Dame gets wasn't publicized.
Regardless we are still getting significantly less (outside of making it to a playoff) than if we were in another power conference.
Hopefully making the playoff on a regular basis can skew the $$ in our favor. Then we're just back to how bad will the acc refs screw us every year and will the annual screw jobs keep us from qualifying for a playoff spot (cause it should be worlds easier to make in this crap league).
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