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I saw your RT
Getting a second opinion. Really hope he dosent do anything to further hurt himself. Seems like a really great kid and I'm very glad were paying his way no matter what.
He's going to the doctor to get a second opinion.
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That would be awesome for the team and him if he were to be ok'd. Would do wonders for our ol class. Hope to see him play but ONLY if there is no threat to his health.
Deserve got nothing to do with it...
Unless the first doctor royally screwed up his diagnoses, I don't see any reason that it would be a good idea for Klepal to ever suit up again. Take the free education and don't risk severe injury or death to play football.
It's football. There is a HUGE risk to his health.
I don't see any positives in him playing more football. Its a game.
How many concussions has he had?
"I never knew I had a foot until I noticed it was on your neck"
Definitely, I don't think it's worth it.
Can't he grey shirt and just work out with the team and stay away from contact for a year and have it reevaluated then?
He's already on campus taking classes. Clock's ticking.
He's already enrolled so no
So just redshirt him and keep him away from all contact. But I guess he would still need to be cleared by a Dr.
He's a good player and I know he must love the game, to even think about playing again. Hope it works out for the kid.
Doctors at USC wouldn't clear Jarvis Jones. He got a second opinion and the rest is $$$$.
Your most likely correct. I may have been on an optimistic high on the possibility of a medical clearance. Doubt they see anything new that would indicate that the Risks outweigh the rewards
Man I want this kid to play but if he has truly bruised his brain that badly this early in his life then he should stop. It's not worth it. And Jarvis Jones was a back injury right? Little different situation.
This post was edited by NOLES_WIN 15 months ago
For many years now, statistically, well over half of all diagnoses and procedures, are either incorrect, or done wrong. It is widely known Drs, especially those who work for and are primarily pad by clinics and medical centers "err" on the side of prescribing the most expensive and protracted procedures, and get this, whether they are needed or not. It happened to me with my liver cancer diagnosis. I was VERY aggressively pushed toward a full transplant, when the second opinion I received was it was not an option that needed to be considered at all. Of courser the $350,000 price tag had NOTHING to do with the offensive stance of the liver clinic, and never mind I would be paying thousands of dollars a month in medicine costs and tons of follow visits. Rich is by all means correct in getting a second and even a third opinion. He just needs to get them totally independent from the original, as the second guy, could easily just support his fellow professional colleague to keep him from legally being called out$$$$$$$$.
You read all the time in the press, how insurance company's are the villain and are to be excoriated as ice holes who only exist to steal money and harass Docs. Bullshit. The Docs do not want anybody as a curb to their often illegal and unethical practices, all in the pursuit of the almighty dollar.
Some Docs are great, and truly have their patients best interest uppermost in their efforts. Many do not. Sooooo, get those INDEPENDENT second opinions, and ignore the initial guy telling you: "I will be happy to recommend a nice physician to take a look at you" prolly his cousin or relation by wedded punishment.
This post was edited by Nashnole 15 months ago
"Side effect of death" would make me a bit reticent to try to play.
Yeah, but as wise man once said, "The side effect of life is death." Rich must be cautious, but not TOO cautious. Imo, that's no way to live.
Get a second and third opinion, but as Nash said, they must be independent from the first. Redshirt or grayshirt him as canolee said.
If he's already being told never to play football again, the damage is probably already done. Kid will only make things worse for himself if he gets in collisions with 300 pound men for the next 4-5 years. His parents should step in.
I'm sure they've been consulting him throughout.
That can be said to any player playing football though
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The point I was making is that doctors have been wrong before. I would never encourage someone to play if they are not able. If the second opinion says play then I would go to a third doctor. If the second says don't play, then go to class and make the most of the opportunity you have been given. Second opinions are wise in every area of life.
I don't think there was ever a doctor that said he couldn't play, just that he shouldn't. If he wants a second opinion he'll get it, but that doesn't mean that Jimbo should honor that opinion. What that second opinion will do is make it impossible to MDQ him, meaning we'll waste a ship on doing the right thing. I read where he has had at least 9 concussions, 9!!! Sure he'll heal up and pass all of the tests, but he'll get #10 very quickly.
Not every provider is like that. In fact, I would say the vast majority are not like that. I've been surrounded by primary care physicians my entire life and can guarantee you that they all care about their patients very, very much. Don't let one bad egg ruin your perception.
I'll tell you this, doctors are about to feel a significant financial squeeze, which ill likely ripple down to medical schools. Don't be surprised if several private clinics and hospitals close over the next 10 years.
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