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Me either. Trickett is VERY good. It is going to be an intense QB battle. I think Trickett has a different kind of "it" factor. All his life he's probably been told that he's too short, too small, too slow, etc. What he's got is, first of all, a great arm. But, additionally, he's tough, he's smart, he's fearless. That said, I think Winston wins the battle. The kid is one of those athletes that could play any sport if he put his mind to it. He's incredibly charismatic, a born leader, and also very smart. It's going to be fun to watch.
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Either way, I genuinely hope it is settled on the field. I've seen far too many FSU QB's look like Tom Brady in practice...only to see them turn into riff-raft in the games.
Give them all a shot... and see who wants it the most.... and most importantly, see who is the most capable of making check-downs under game-time pressure.
This post was edited by FsuFanForever 17 months ago
I don't think there's any doubt, that going into the spring, Trickett is our QB. Between then and fall camp, I want Winston and Coker to battle him every day.
The most important thing is to not just make the safe choice, but to make the right choice. If Coker or Winston grow into the starting role, just give them the reigns, and get to work.
Never knew having huge balls makes you a good QB
The USC incident leads me to believe that "slightly smaller than average balls" gives you an edge.
I hope Winston wins the job. I think he has the most talent of the 3 qb's and i want the most talented person to start even if someone else has more experience. I'm watching the Oregon game and I think Winston could have a similar season as mariota is having right now.
I thought EJ would win the heisman but hes turned out to be missing something.
If we could have EJ`s physical tools but with more football smarts or instinct that could be a real winner.
Supposedly Coker has EJ's physical tools and at first glance might have the pedigree to have what EJ is lacking.
Hopefully he has the "it" factor EJ is missing. If not Trickett might be a Ken Dorsey type success. Winston..havent heard much from practice either way but we sure have a hell of a lot of potential between those 3 at QB.
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Well, not literally, of course. I'm not quite sure how large his ball sack is. lol
You must know what I mean when I say "big balls." Big balls = Fearlessness.
Maybe I should say "brass balls," then they could still be "small" (if that's the case with Trickett), but it'd be clear that he's tough as nails. Or, "Balls of Iron" (I think that's a Bruce Lee
movie, or is that "Fists of Fury"?) In either case, Trickett has the intangibles, one of them is, he ain't afraid of shit. He'll take a hit. He's not afraid of making the tough pass. he's a leader.
Why would ANYONE think EJ would/could/should win the Heisman!? He's very good, but the Heisman was supposed to be Matt Barkley's. Then it was supposed to be Geno Smith's. EJ has all the tools, but so do a lot of college QBs. Now, it's between Klein and Manzeil IMO. Manzeil is not only the best freshman in the country, he maybe the best QB. And don't sleep on Mariota. There's nothing that kid can't do. And he's a freshman too. That leads us full circle: can Winston be that guy next year? Maybe.
My uneducated thoughts on each:
Trickett- has experience and has played well considering. Has above average arm but not measurables.
Coker- haven't seen much but has the athletic ability and is supposed to have the smarts and football iq. Not sure of his arm strength but he should get his shot after being in the system and should have knowledge of the playbook.
Winston- Superb athlete who according to elite11 has the leadership, decision making and smarts to take over. Will he know the playbook well enough, and will Jimbo let him use his athletic ability to make plays is the big question.
If Johnny manziel can do it, why can't Winston? They are very similar situations. Both redshirted and are great athletes, so we will see. And to those who say he would be starting now if he had it, many think ej is a top 2 round pick, similar to tannehil (sp?), and Johnny football didn't start last year. Should be a fun spring, summer, fall practice to see who (hopefully) earns it.
5 freaking years in the system
Jimbo supposedly excellent QB coach
EJ supposed to be a dedicated and hard worker
Has better blocking up front and a slew of talent at receiver and in the backfield to start the season
All those with Heisman formula = best player on best team
We had a ridiculously easy schedule and route to the NC
EJ had everything going for him this year. He should have put this team on his back vs. NC State and willed us to victory ..instead he, the coaching and the team melted down in an inexcusable and mind boggling loss.
That's why he's slow and not much of a scrambler.
Fortunately he has good instincts, "fast-twitch" intelligence, and throws a near-perfect looking pass.
Not being afraid to to fail, and sometimes, more importantly, not being afraid to succeed is a really big deal for a QB.
I think you guys are missing a few key points.
As previously stated, Jimbo is not limiting EJ's ability to run the ball, EJ is. He believes that being a "dual threat" quarterback will be something held against him as he prepares for the NFL. Also, EJ has always struggled to identify blitzers, especially when they are coming off the edge. Lastly, you can't use the Clemson game as a measuring stick. That defense is terrible.
It will definitely be an interesting quarterback battle in the spring. If Winston plays baseball, you can rule him out. Between Coker and Trickett, I think it may ultimately come down with how Jimbo wants his offense to look. If he feels that Wilder, Freeman, Pender, and the incoming recruits can give him what he needs in the running game, we may see Trickett. If he wants to be able to run from the quarterback position, we may see Coker. Hell, we may even see both.
Winston is very talented, but is he more talented than other QB's we have? I don't believe there is any way for us to know that. He has tremendous physical ability, but that doesn't mean he has a greater propensity to succeed than Trickett or Coker.
I've got nothing against Winston. If he wins the battle this offseason, I think we'll be in GREAT shape because Trickett is really good. That would make him better than that.
I just think it's silly to say Winston is more talented (or less talented for that matter) than any QB on the roster when we've never seen him play att his level. And we need to define what we're talking about and including when using the word "talent"
Trickett is a solid player but he's not our guy long term. Sorry I just don't buy it like I don't buy his father being a good OL coach. Don't mean to sound harsh on the kid because he's got some talent and heart but not near the ability as the other 2 guys we have. And yes Winston has talent, does he have the smarts to run Jimbo's offense, not sure but he's talented.
Good points. EJ needs to work on his passing game 20+ yards down the field. He's not NFL accurate at this point. His touch on the deep ball needs work for sure. For sure his ability to read defenses, be a leader on the field and make plays is great.
How do you know this? What do you base this on? I would say, based on his play last year against Oklahoma and Clemson, that he's got a ton of potential.
This post was edited by fsufelip 17 months ago
Maybe I should have said more potential. Imo trickett is only a game manager and other teams won't be afraid of him beating them. Their isn't anything wrong with being a game manager but I just think that both Winston and coker are more talented, and the only think trickett has on them is more time in the system.
I haven't seem coker at all really so idk much about him, but from watching Winston In the elite 11 I think that he has alot of charisma and will be a very good leader.
Since we're using cliches, I'd say Trickett looked more like a gun-slinger than a game manager. Dude came in firing the ball all over the field last year. He threw the ball down field A LOT against Clemson last year, the way I remember it.
Trickett went 24-38 for 336 and 3 TD's last year @ Clemson in his first ever start as a freshman. I don't see how that resembles a game manager.
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