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Just something to think about, but if we move to a 3-4 our coaching staff could have multiple looks to it. Most teams that run that system only have one DL coach. Some have two LB coaches. Hell some teams have a safeties coach and a CB coach. I personally would like to see Odell have the entire Dline and let us have two LB coaches. The Dline doesn't change much as no matter what your system a 0, 1 and 3 tech have the same responsibilities. This gives the new DC and Jimbo a lot of options when completing this staff.
This post was edited by LSUNoVa97443 16 months ago
If we go to the 3-4 will will be a 9-3,8-4 team. Now I wouldn't mind mixing in some 3-4 but moving to a base 3-4 will kill this team.
It would kill my blood pressure as well
9-3 might be optimistic unless the offense is much improved (which would mean we threw away an 11 or 12 win season). Think Tennessee this year with better talent but less depth at LB.
You have to believe whoever is the new DC will sit down with Jimbo and look at our personnel and make a decision based off of that. We will not pull a Tennessee next season.
We may see looks, but we will not be a 3-4 team. It takes away from one of our best positions on defense. DT's are asked to be stumps in a 3-4, Goldman and Jernigan are 2 of the best pass rushing DT's in the country, they would have to totally change their game. Now, we may start recruiting more gap clogging DT's and DE/LB hybrids to transition to that, but next season, we will still be a base 4-3 with maybe a few packages of 3-4 in certain situations.
"A Seminole warrior killed in battle is a legend remembered. A Gator lost in battle becomes a pair of boots and a belt. "
Might be the most premature statement I have seen... ever
Watch film and name better. Don't throw out stats at me. Actually watch film and their hand work/power combination.
I don't need to throw anything at you, except my laughter.... Goldman was a true freshman who only saw garbage minuets against terrible ACC teams, calling him one of the best passing rushing DT's in america is beyond premature
You could have called him a potential beast at rushing the passer, or a future stud at DT... anything really, but already proclaiming him as one of the best in america at rushing the passer before he ever even gets his hand on a QB based on " film " aka footage from the television ( which isn't game film btw ) is just insane..... and the kid only played in 9 games.... 7 if you take away the first two which weren't football games, more like a pickup game equal to the talent I have seen at the local playground
I could name about 25+ that are better right now, including just about every DT that will be drafted in April's draft this upcoming spring.... but there is no need, plus its hard to type to my hysterical laughing that is still taking place
if you would have said just Jernigan I would have no problem with that because Jernigan actually has the film to back it up, but you can't include Goldman in the mix when he barely played last season.
This post was edited by jdharris86 16 months ago
I love Jernigan, love em
But even he is pushing it with that comment, he had a few games where he did a whole bunch of nothing with a side order or nothing
6.5 TFL's was a little disappointing for me, but then again he should have been playing more snaps
Jernigan and Goldman are hopefully the starters next year, unless my mans Lawrence Stample comes on and starts tearing heads off
Scalp 'Em Seminoles!!!
I too think Timmy should have gotten more reps, McCloud wasn't 100% and he took a step back this year. Don't forget about DMAC, I think he is going to be really good as well.
Just not a huge McAllister fan. He's not overly big and strong for his position, even at 290, which is what you get for bringing him in as a 6'2 265lb freshman. He has great quickness which seems to disappear at times. Seems like he's been at FSU for 10 years.
Jernigan has much more natural size... with the same speed. Jernigan could play at 310 and still be quick.
I thought McAllister had arguably the best season at DT this year, I was very impressed with him
I do agree he isn't the greatest in terms of a physical specimen... especially in comparison to guys like Shanks, Jernigan, Goldman and Stample... but he should be a excellent senior leader for the group next season
And I wouldn't be shocked to see him get drafted, late... but still drafted
Did McAllister have the best stats at DT this year? His production would be measured by TFL and sacks because he's not much of a space-eater in the run game.
Jernigan with 8
McAllister with 4
Nobody else above 2 ( fart noise )
McAllister with 2.5
Jernigan with 1.5
Nobody else with more than 1 ( fart noise )
DMAC was playing behind Dawkins (another guy who took a step back as well), DMAC played really well last season in limited snaps. IMO, he and Timmy should have seen more reps...
^^^ love that picture, Chase takes the best effin pictures mane
Somebody needs to shop that stupid ass zebra out of there though
In college, you don't need the 330lb NT that you need in the NFL to run the 3-4. Jernigan could do it and has the explosiveness and hands to split double teams and still make plays. I think Shanks could fill this role if Odell has him playing with better leverage. He may be a Country strong 325-330. And then JMac and NLS could play it in short spurts. We won't completely move away from the 4-3, but we should be more multiple.
And McCalister is the clear starter along side Jernigan next year. Goldman has to have a huge offseason, but he has the body and skillset to excel as a true soph.
Landing Hollin gives us 4 legit DE's for next year and I like Bellamy's future, but I think landing another recruit that can play from day one would ease some of my fears. Tim Williams isn't the biggest guy, but he plays big.
I agree that if the new staff brings more of a 3-4 base defense then the transition should be over two years.
10-15 plays a game next fall and 20-25 the next.
How you allocate your defensive coaches up based on what the HC and DC want, not scheme. Some teams have one coach handle the entire DL, one for the LBs and then two split up the secondary. Most experienced DCs know enough about multiple position groupings to allow for flexibility in staff make up.
As for 3-4 being the defense of the future, I just don't see it. Against spread teams 3-4 teams bring in a nickel and at times even a dime back just like 4-3 teams. Some 3-4 teams even go with 4 DL in their nickel packages so they aren't as vulnerable against the run as they would be in a 3-3-5 look. And as long as a blitz is defined by bringing 5+ after the QB the 3-4 leaves just as many holes in the coverage as a 4-3. If you bring 5 you still only have 6 covering. And if confusing the QB is your aim you can get the exact same thing out of the 4-3 using fire zone and zone blitzing. No one scheme is innately superior than another. It is about amassing talent and coaching them up. LSU's 4-3, Alabama's 3-4 and South Carolina's 4-2-5 are all equally dominant.
I could see Jernigan being a Jay Ratliff type NT
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