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1st and 2nd round picks are currently on this years team?
For so many years FSU was used to churning out 1st day picks (1st day is only 1 round now). But then it stopped. FSU hasn't been producing NFL talent like it has been accustomed to doing. However it looks like starting this year the NFL pipeline from Tallahassee is back open.
How many 1st and 2nd rounders do you see on today's roster?
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At least 10
20 Prospects on the current roster
- I've been down on him, but I think he puts it all together this season.
Jacob Coker or Jameis Winston
- With the talent surrounding these two, I think that whoever wins this battle could have a bright NFL future. I also think that the talent surrounding them will also improve their stock a great deal.
- Hard to argue with his size and speed. Could turn some heads this season.
- Similar to Rodney, yet he has an even higher upside.
- Been hearing rave reviews on this kid. Could be the next 1st rounder.
- Very talented, but raw prospect. He is very powerful and quick. Could play his way into round 2.
- Tremendous size and plays angry. Could be the best of the bunch when all is said and done.
- Would have probably slipped into round 1 last year. Stays healthy, he'll be a high 1st rounder.
- Plays like he did last year and he will find his name called at some point in the 1st two rounds.
- If he progresses like most expect, he will be hard to pass up on in round 1.
- Very raw prospect, but there is a lot to like about his power and athleticism. This is just a complete guess.
- Hard to tell, but playing on the best DL in the nation will only help his stock.
- Pure guess at this point...
- Pure guess at this point...
- Pure guess at this point...
- Scouts are very high on him. Maybe the best overall defensive prospect on the team.
- Would have been a day 1 pick last year and will be this year.
- Size is a concern, but his speed, strength and instincts will be hard to pass up.
- 1st/2nd round talent, just got to find the best fit for him.
- Pure guess at this point...
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Its hard enough to project just one year in advance so that's as far as I'll go. But those good old days sure look like they're back. Lots of NFL talent here again.
I think Jenkins and Carradine are easy first rounders this year and Werner, with a big year, could get in there also. After QB, passrusher is the most valuable position in today's pass-first game. You have guys like Bruce Irvin getting drafted high based on potential alone. Tank and Brandon have production to match their tools.
Dawkins could be a second round pick. He's a heckuva player who could pile up big numbers with a lot of double teams coming on the outside. He'll get his chance to shine and really be helped out hy his supporting cast.
On to EJ. Again, a premium is placed on QBs and they are often drafted higher than they probably should go. I love Ponder but he was injury prone (like EJ) and threw some bad picks (unlike EJ). He went very high. Manuel's attributes are just what scouts drool over and he'll undoubtedly interview through the roof. A good year (doesn't have to be great statistically) with better decision making and he'll jump into the first round, IMO.
I think the only sure-fire ones at the moment are Rhodes, Jenkins, Werner, Jones, Jernigan. I think if they have big years, Smith, Manuel, Erving, Watson, Joyner, Greene, Wilder, Carradine, and Karlos Williams all have the potential to do it. Obviously a lot of freshmen do as well, but I'd rather not speculate before they play a down.
Looks about right.
As for a few others I think CJ stays for his senior year. Linebacker is devalued even for three down players. I have questions about Rhodes's top end speed and wonder if he's not a free safety at the next level. Conversely I think Joyner could be a first rounder as a corner. His wingspan, tenacity and speed make up for a lack of height.
Since Tom Loy pretty much crushed this thread haha I would ask a second question....who is the highest drafted player on the current roster?
I think as of now it will be either Edwards or Goldman. I WISH I didn't have to make such a projection but I dont see anyone else on the team going higher than ~10th. Edwards will be a GM's dream at 3-4 DE if he develops well and Eddie Goldman is a 2in taller, 15lb heavier Tim Jernigan. I think Goldman has #3-#5 pick potential.
Only one of Tom's projections that I question is Rodney Smith. Love the kid, but don't think he gets enough catches to go top 2 rounds.
I think a lot of FSU receivers will be in the NFL, but our depth at the position will keep them from being first couple of round talents.
I agree totally. Been a huge Rodney fan but unless he steps up this year (not necessarily stats but just refines his whole game a little) he'll be a late 3rd to late 4th round pick off of potential.
Loy ruined all of the fun
Since Loy did pretty much cover it all...pop quiz hotshots...what likely 2nd or 3rd rounder was not listed?
Didn't even think of that one. I could see DHop going early. I'm thinking of a guy that Jimbo loves and I'm pretty sure has called an early round pick in interviews.
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T. Brooks. I remember Jimbo calling him a future NFL safety and an early round draft pick in interviews. Dude is a football player. If he doesn't do something stupid and try to go pro early, pretty sure he will be no lower than a 3rd rounder. He's got some pretty talented guys behind him, but has the starting role locked up.
I think both Matias and Tre' Jackson are developing into 1st round talent.
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Lonnie Pryor? Versatile FB/HBRB and team player. With him being at FB/HB we don't usually get to see his athleticism but if he does well at the combine/senior bowl/pro day he could be a late 2nd-4th rd guy
Sorry guys. Had a little down time on my hands! haha.
Would love to read some of your own opinions and breakdowns as to why 'so and so' will or won't be a 1st day pick.
Potentially, there are quite a few. At this moment:
Brandon Jenkins- 1st round
Bjorn Werner- 1st round
LaMarcus Joyner- late 1st-2nd round
Christian Jones- 1st round
Some guys could possibly play there way up into the first 2 rounds:
Everette Dawkins- Will see a lot of single team with the talent along our DL.
Xavier Rhodes- DL pressure will help. I think his combine numbers will drop or rise his stock more than this upcoming season
Vince Williams- If he has an outstanding season then goes to the combine and puts up huge #'s, he could be a sleeper.
Tank Carradine- Big season will certainly help, but I think it will have to be All American type to get up in the 1st-2nd rounds.
Rodney Smith- Again, would have to be an All American type season, plus go to the combine and run faster than expected.
Terrance Brooks- Big year will put him into the mix. If he stays 2 more, he could compete for 1st round consideration.
EJ Manuel- Will have to show a lot of improvement in decision making, but he has the measureables. It will also depend on the need of QB's by NFL teams in the 2013 Draft. A team could take a chance to develop him for a few years. I mean, how many honestly expected Christian Ponder to be drafted 12th.
Now for the young guns. Tons of talent. Tons of potential. For the 2nd year players, this season will start to slot them into places.
Timmy Jernigan- No doubt 1st round talent.
Karlos Williams- Has to show he can understand his assignments. If he does, sure fire 1st rounder. If not, still an NFL opportunity.
Tre Jackson- Will be hard for a guard, but he has a nasty streak I love.
Josue Matias- Prototypical size, young enough to be on the national stage for at least 2 more years.
Cam Erving- Same as Matias, except he will be at the premium OL spot, LT.
Nick O'Leary- Added importance of the TE in the NFL really helps, doesn't hurt he's very talented.
Rashad Greene- Not the big WR teams look for, but has the speed and route running ability to easily be 1st-2nd rounder.
Kelvin Benjamin- This year, we see if the hype is warranted. If so, easy 1st rounder.
Jacob Coker- Won't see much action this season unless an unforseen injury, but he really needs to win the starting job next year to be considered in this discussion.
Bobby Hart- Has the talent, has to solidify a position along the line.
Giorgio Newberry- Heard good things this summer, now he has to show it. His size alone will intrigue teams.
Tyler Hunter- Playmaker on the high school level, will need to show at least flashes of that this season.
Menelik Watson- Hard for me to put a JUCO transfer here without ever seeing him play, but have heard great things, and has prototypical size for the next level.
It's almost comical to talk about freshmen this early, but what the hell:
Mario Edwards- #1 recruit in the nation at a premium position, enough said.
Eddie Goldman- Already huge and strong.
Ronald Darby- Blazing speed and good size for a CB.
Chris Casher- Just has to keep developing, great athlete, great size.
Justin Shanks- Great run stuffer in high school, strong as an ox.
Mario Pender- Rough start with the injury, plus RB isn't a premium position in the NFL. Would need to have a Reggie Bush type career to garner 1st-2nd round talk.
Jameis Winston- #1 QB in the country, great athlete. Will have to contentrate solely on football.
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fsufsu, I'd say of the upper classmen(junior/senior) it would be Werner or Cam. Werner is more of a sure thing and I see him going middle first right now. Maybe 8-10 if he does come back as a senior.
Dawkins could sneak in the 2ncd round this year, but I think he may be more of a 3rd round guy. Still not shabby. Amp will get drafted also, probably 4-5th. And he is getting so big, he may be able to play NT in a 3-4, which would increase his value.
I see Brandon going in the 25-45 range. Christian Jones fits in there as well, unless he has a great year or two production wise, then he could move up to middle first.
Of the pups, Jernigan is outrageous, but a guy like Goldman already looks like a 5 year vet and the comments about his first step are scary. He might be a top 3 pick, whereas I can see Timmy going in the top 10 to 15 range.
Mario has to be right there also when it's all said and done. And I love Casher.
Matius and Tre will be hurt by playing inside(guards aren't usally drafted that high) but they both could end up being special and have good athleticism.
I absolutely love Joyner and Telvin, but there size will keep them out of the first round(unless someone wants Joyner as a cover 2 cb and takes him late first). Telvin is probably more a middle round guy. I see Xavier as a second round guy for sure.
Lonnie definitely could sneak into the second round. He is so versatile and has excellent size.
Missed one. Demonte is going to blow up this year IMO. He has first or second round talent either this year or next.
I wanted to say Demonte, but I need to see him do it first. I'd love to see Pryor that high, but I think teams can wait and get him in the 5th round or so.
Joyner reminds me so much of Bob Sanders, smaller stature, speed, not afraid to hit despite his size, that's why I think he is a 2nd rounder more than likely, possibility to sneak into the bottom of the 1st if the right team is picking.
Good thing for Joyner is he isn't injury prone. Shocked no one mentioned him but if our offensive line plays at a high level I can see a guy like James Wilder Jr being a 2nd round type pick, show good speed 4.4-4.5 he could be a 1st.
Also IMO Xavier Rhodes problem wouldn't be top end speed but quickness. He is very fast with a good stride. He may be a lil too stiff though good size and speed with good cover skills is definitely 1st rd material.
Pete, I see Lonnie in the 3rd or 4rth, but if teams bring him in and see his character, that will help his stock.
I missed Tank the first time around, I see him in the 2ncd or 3rd because of limited film compared to most college de's, but he has a first round body, so you never know.
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