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My general point is that for the past 2 seasons, the defense has been better than the offense on the field and on the recruiting trail. And this fact requires some changes on O, e.g., coaching changes, changes in coaching duties, etc.
First off, we had *a lot* of coaching turnover. But since I want to limit the discussion to the offense, it's worth noting that all retained coaches except Odell--Jimbo, Trickett, Dawsey--were on the offensive side of the ball. The only offensive coaches lost were Gran, Coley & Craig; of these 3 only Gran was responsible for significant coaching duties.
Now, for the last 2 seasons on the field the defense has been the better side of the ball, at least according to the industry standard Football Outsiders. And since Jimbo has taken over (late 2009) the D side of the ball has been recruited better than the O, e.g., we have signed 5* LBs, DTs, DEs, DBs, but we haven't signed a 5* OL, WR or RB (we did sign O'Leary & Winston who were both 5* recruits and #1 at their positions).
IMO this disparity between the offense and defense merits changes in the O, e.g.,
1. A new OL coach - IMO Trickett can coach but he can't sign the elite OL. And based on Jimbo's coaching hires since his time at FSU, we know that he believes hiring elite recruiters is just as important at FSU as hiring great coaches. In short, IMO there is a ceiling (that we have already hit) for recruiting OL under Trickett.
2. A new play-caller - I consider Jimbo almost a football savant, but I don't consider him an elite play-caller; his knowledge of FB doesn't translate to play-calling. Moreover, IMO a strong argument can be made that Jimbo's O has under-performed given the O talent. Other obvious benefits to giving up play-calling duties is that Jimbo will have more time & energy to focus on strictly HC duties (in addition to QB coach, head booster shmoozer, etc.)
Last, 1 is more important than 2 IMO.
People keep saying Trickett can coach.
He might of succeeded in the past put his philosophy doesn't work with our players and scheme.
His coaching is old school which is a bad thing now days, cussing and military style coaching is a thing of the past IMO.
He is old and cannot hit the recruiting trail at all compared to other coaches...
He needs to go IMO this off season was the final straw, the only thing that will be holding us back in the upcoming years is our OL. Which is a horrible thing considering our talent at QB and RB.
Agreed. Since Jimbo took over, defense is king, which is ironic.
But literally every position on defense since Jimbo took over has gotten incredible talent.
I'll forgive the lack of 5 star WR's and RB's (Wilder and Pender were 5 stars on some sites FWIW) since we load up on high 4 star guys. But the OL recruiting is a clear problem. Watson, Hart, Matias, and Denson were some big gets though.
I was hoping we could of gone through the day without having one of these
Trickett's work with Zebrie and Andrew showed me he can coach. Recruiting hasn't been so hot, one good season and a couple bad to okay years(this class was okay could have been great-elite)
Jimbo is an offensive coach that has a defensive mindset. He believes you win games with great defense and has focused on that. Other than OL, where on offense have we struggled?
I like how you'll forgive the lack of 5 star WR's and RB's, but acknowledge we do have some. Do you think there are more than 5-6 teams in the country with higher rated skill positions on offense across the board than FSU?
"It's not the SEC conference vs. the ACC conference," "It's Florida State vs. Auburn." --Lamarcus Joyner
This thread will bring out the scolds for sure. I like it when people make pro-Trickett, pro-offense and pro-Jimbo replies without implying that the person questioning the offense is bad for having had those thoughts. But discussion of potential problems on the team is difficult without the scolding.
That's one thing Canolee is great at--being positive and shooting down doubters with respectful facts and observations rather than by scolding. I also find it unseemly when "negatives" berate Canolee and other like posters for being "too positive."
But take cover--scolds will scold!
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