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I can't believe the deal includes tier 3 rights and I can't believe FSU agreed to this racket.
is the ACC trying to end up like the big east, what a joke, time to get that worthless commish out of there or leave this horrible conference
Gobucs84 - I believe ESPN gets your Tier 3 rights under the new contract so the $7-8m difference you mentioned is too low and does not include the new BCS.
FSU is making an additional $6.5 million aside from the espn deal? Are you sure?
I believe that is what we make on coaches shows, radio rights, other media rights. I could be wrong with the correct number but I am pretty sure that is what it is.
What I notice is that the release does not even include a dollar amount. That has only been raised by posters. If you're not mentioning money in the release, it isn't something to brag about.
This deal is great for the ACC if as long as your not one of the upper-producing football schools.
That's just reality.
The mid-level to smaller schools in the ACC aren't strong enough to get their own media rights, and to them, this is basically a $5 million dollar per-team buyout of media rights.
The problem is, you were making $12.7 mill before, and now you get about $5 more, but lock out any media rights what-so-ever for the next 15 years. That's good for the small teams, but the big ones holding up the conference in Football AND are trying to keep up with the arms-race, get totally screwed in the deal.
Do the numbers, it's not "rocket surgery".
Does that fall under 3rd teir though? UF's 3rd teir deal with CBS and sunsports is worth 10 million in addition to their $17 million deal with ESPN. Our 3rd teir is tied to ESPN and that's the biggest differience in monteary descrepency.
This post was edited by fsukum 23 months ago
Several have mentioned the additional $ we would get by moving to the Big12 but would there be additional expenses? Would our travel budget go up materially? Just wondering about the net gain.
You are right ESPN does control our Tier 3. I dont believe the IMG contract is controlled by the espn or acc.
Travel cost would jump a bit but nothing that would not allow us to leave....The amount of missed time for students would be up a little as travel West is not as convenient as travel up and down the East coast...We would also have a $20 million buyout from the ACC (minus what another conference would be willing to help with).
The new ACC deal is a BAD deal for us not only in money but the length of the contract which will put us even further behind 10+ years out.
This post was edited by thebear612 23 months ago
I guess it depends on who goes with us and if the Big 12 wants to grow to 12 teams again and spread East. If Clemson, GT and Miami go and we play them annually, then maybe not by too much.
Providing you have the extra seats to sell, a new conference could generate increased ticket sales which hopefully would offset any additional travel expenses.
We do, at least to visitors. Although from the way our AD was talking last week, it sounds like our season ticket sales are down from where they expected them to be at this point.
I looked up the additional 2009 – 2010 broadcast, television, radio and internet rights or basically the third tier rights for some of the Big 12 teams, and Florida State. This is in addition to the conference contract and not shared.
Kansas State $3,263,947
Oklahoma State $6,395,000
Iowa State $2,608,896
Florida State $349,869
I think it is probably $0 now too now that ESPN holds our 3rd tier rights.
Acc covered tobacco road and bball with this deal. They need to merge witht the big east and make a power bball conference and we need to kick rocks somewhere else.
The beer's on ice fellas. See ya in a few
For me it was hard to understand the potential of third tier rights until I was able to see actual numbers. And these are not schools you think of when selling a brand. That is one reason I have held out hope for ND joining if the BCS takes away their path or makes it more difficult to reach the new system.
Here is a story on the texas rivals site, pretty good points.
Orangebloods.com: Complete football, basketball, baseball and recruiting coverage and breaking news of the University of Texas Longhorns.
It's too bad our AD won't have the stones to do anything like leave as usual for him. No offense to those that have served, but he doesn't have a spine for a guy that has served. I can only hope Barron can finally grow a pair and override Spetman to leave for the Big 12
FSU would completely foolish to turn down an offer to the Big 12 with their budget shortcomings if an offer were to come. The potential of having first school network in the state of Florida and the first indoor practice Facility in the State of Florida (of the big 3) would be a huge recruiting advantage, not to mention a TV contract on par with UF. A more competitive football schedule may also improve ticket sales and reivigerate our booster population.
If an offer is made, there is no reason not to make a move. FSU could have an oportunity to set themselves up in fantatsic shape going into a new era of college football.
TAMU's and Missouri's ADs were also against the move from the Big 12, but they are gone now. Someone else pointed this out (and I agree), his comments about the budget shortcomings may have been the initial "hint" at looking at out options.
we all know the Governor of Texas is the AD for A&M
I got this earlier today, take it for what its worth,:
"ACC just signed a huge new deal for around 17-18 mill a year per school. Nobody is leaving with that $. The Big Ten and SEC will get more (around 20) but the money is now close enough to where it wouldn't be worth it with the exit fees. Nobody was ever leaving to the Big 12, they are grasping for straws trying to save themselves. ACC is also in the best position to grab Notre Dame once the Big East splits and forces NDs hand, not to mention Delaney from the Big 10 is already saying you will have win your division in order to make the BCS, ND will need a conference to be included. At that point it is anyones guess who the ACC adds for their 16th (Rutgers?) but I'd expect another jump in revenue for them."
This post was edited by Pbenuncensored2 23 months ago
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