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I've been one of his biggest critics during his time here, but the kid did a decent job with what he had. I'm glad I got the opportunity to see his last game in Doak, regardless of how it turned out. It's real easy to get pissed off because of a bad game vs. UF..
To those of you who genuinely think EJ is the problem and is the biggest thing limiting our program... I sincerely invite you to use your comcast login on ESPN.... and go back and watch Ponder in Oklahoma/NC State games from 2010. These games will show you how a highly mobile, first round NFL QB fairs with Jimbo's playcalling + Trickett's peak (5-senior, ALL ACC) offensive line.
Even the best QB's in the NFL (Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaaron Rodgers) melt down and throw 3-5 INTs when their O-line comes unhinged...and those guys have the luxury of playing for brilliant coaches, who are smart enough to quickly adjust their game plans in order to mitigate the problems. Can you imagine how they'd look with a coach who kept calling the same plays, regardless of how the line was performing?
EJ -- you did the best you could... and I'm very honored to have you as our QB. I sincerely wish you the best of luck at the next level.
That would be the year that Haulstead, the biggest promise on the team, ran the wrong route early and lead to a pick.
He can't even scratch the field with what EJ has to throw to.
EJ is the man and him having a bad game last night in no way changes the class and maturity that he possesses. Those who don't realize what EJ stands for will when a guy like Clint Trickett is your QB. Take a look at the smirk he had on his face when he was in the game last night. EJ represents everything that is right about college football.
Kenny Powers: "A true champion will do whatever it takes to rise above. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies."
Ej had so many more weapons than ponder had. Ej might have the better physical traits but he is way behind ponder when it comes to the mental part of the game.
I'm not saying he's as good as Ponder... or that he doesn't shoulder some of the blame.
What I'm saying, is he shoulders negligible amounts compared to Jimbo and Trickett... And it's not even close...
The end-results make it easy to lose sight of the precursors which lead to the end-results.
2 of 3 picks yesterday were thrown with zero pressure. The other was an overthrow to a 6'6'' wideout
I am not saying Ponder is great. He has talent apparently, but EJ has shown no progression.
He is the same guy missing receivers that are open as he was at the opening of last year in that game. He doesn't have "it" when it comes to making the play to put it away.
Great guy from all accounts. Just not a great QB.
Oh well, he's my guy. Beat GT.
Ponder lit up a talented UNC D with less offensive talent around him.
I don't think the OU is a fair comparison.
If the Gators had EJ and we had Driskell yesterday...I'd bet dollars to doughnuts, they beat our ass even worse.
Same with NC State/Glennon earlier this year...
He made plays in the pocket that EJ doesn't.
EJ can NOT read the Zone Read, therefore eliminating his running from the playbook. It hurts the backs too.
The OL plays on EJ weakness and it isnt fair to him. He has no pocket presence and little pockets.
People must understand: if you get serious pressure on half of the plays, you play as though you're under pressure on all the plays. Pressure affects a QB for the whole game, not just when you're actually getting pressure. EJ was murderously pressured in the first half of the game yesterday.
I am convinced that playing on the run for his entire career ruined Chris Rix--even when he wasn't under pressure.
And a QB needs good blocking not only to succeed on one play, but to develop as a passer.
I take back anything I ever said about you.
Candidate for classy post of year.
While I disagree w/ a good amount of what's in the op I 100% agree w/ this sentiment:
"EJ -- you did the best you could... and I'm very honored to have you as our QB. I sincerely wish you the best of luck at the next level."
I agree. +1
"I never knew I had a foot until I noticed it was on your neck"
Classy post by you, atgreek. +1
Haha a downvote. I did not bash the kid I just stated my opinion. I'm open for debate.
If I had not just rewatched the game I would not have posted.
He was awful, awful. awful yesterday. We had open wr's on every pass play. He should have thrown for 450 yds yesterday.
I appreciate him but IMO we will not miss him at all. Actually, we will be better on offense without him. His big asset was his mobility but he refused to run.
Honestly, i saw little progress in his qb play in his two years of starting.
We had a 5th year qb, a below avg ol, one of the best wr corps in the country and defenses stacked the box to force him to beat them in the air.
That actually tells you what the opposition thought of him.
The constant overthrows, the constant missed pre-snap reads had a huge negative impact on this offense HUGE, HUGE
I had someone tell me over the summer who would have direct 2nd hand knowledge that his got his pre snap reads wrong 50% of the time last year.
Is he smart? yes. However, so was einstein and he could not have gotten through his presnap reads in time.
Holding the ball too long and constantly taking sacks when he should have thrown the ball away, the spin outs, etc.
I was and am an EJ fan. However, Bushido was dead on when he said before the start of last season when he said EJ was as good as he was going to get.
EJ was not our biggest problem. I don't know if I would classify him as a problem except for yesterday. either Jimbo refusing to get an oc is our biggest problem or at least someone he will listen to during the game and an ol coach that can get enough high quality commits being a close second.
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by TNOLE27 17 months ago
I missed him all game long.
EJ holds onto the ball too long takes huge sacks and is not an accurate thrower. He misses wide-open receivers all the time.
He doesn't have other very good qualities that make him a good quarterback and I love the guy...
Pain is temporary. It may last a minute, or it may last a year. But eventually, it will subside. If i quit, however it will last forever.
EJ will not be missed on the field.
EJ has some very good qualities and some pull-out-your hair qualities.
23,000 dolphins are killed every year in Japan. For pest control. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KRD8e20fBo
There is no debate EJ had a horrendous game yesterday.
None. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
Still, kid gave us 5 years.
LOL. That was good.
I agree with you. Completely. I did not say but should have said that he took verbal almost abuse from his coach in multiple games the last 2 years. That is something he handled with grace that quite frankly I could not /would have refused to handle for 10 minutes at his age.
He is all class. He is a good example. I hope my son grows up to be like him. I mean all of that.
When was at the S. Carolina (Peach Bowl) game Ej played almost the whole game against a very good defense, a S Carolina fan said to me "He [Ej] is going to lead you to the promised land." I thought he was right.
Maybe I am showing a bit of frustration because of the lack of progress-part if not most of the frustration really needs to be reserved for his coach.
This post was edited by TNOLE27 17 months ago
I hope some of you guys are watching MNF... and seeing what the Giants pressure is doing to Aaron Rodgers judgement :-)
I choose to remember EJ for the 2nd half of the Clemson game.... the beautiful throw to Bejamin in the corner of the endzone.
That was a magical night -- and he fed me some of the best crow I've ever eaten that night... and that was one of the best feelings I've had as an FSU fan in a long time.
Whether this year was Jimbo's peak or not -- we will find out soon enough... But I think we all agree, if he's peaked this year, he will quickly be shown the door.... because we are not allowing another coach to take this team backwards because of their ego. It's improvement or bust.... from here on out.
This post was edited by FsuFanForever 17 months ago
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