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After FINALLY reading the Za'Darius thread, I have to ask if Stoops and Elliot may deserve some of the blame for our currently less than impressive 2013 class? Conspiracy...maybe? It is however entirely possible that they knew they were gone and just didn't recruit as hard or keep up with kids? How many kids dropped us because we seemingly "lost touch" with them? IMO, a lot of peculiar things have and are happening with the 2013 class, and maybe this explains it?
Maybe not though.....thoughts.....
Nope - some years are up and some are down. We've had 3 fantastic classes, this one can still end up great and next year will be top 3 again
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It's December. Signing day isn't until February.
I have a hard time wondering what makes this class less than stellar? The reality is, it's a class very similar to 2010, which turned out to be a very good class.
We are waiting on the meat.
We will likely finish with Thomas, Kirkland, Coley, have a great shot at Tunsil, have a decent shot at landing one of McQuay / Willis, still in it for Alex Collins (if the rumors are correct at RB coach - WOW), will pull a TE in this class, and have a shot at Tim Williams at DE.
So when looking at off the cuff difference makers, I've got:
Levenberry (in a 3-4)
When a class has 8 impact kids or more, you did a damn good job. This doesn't include any of our fence guys, and also doesn't include kids like Franklin who are in the mold of Terrence Brooks (athletes that can run and have solid frames).
Baker is out. Shelton's out. We have 1 kid on the commit list that I'm not a fan of. Back in the Bowden days, we'd have 6 kids a class that qualified as "why take".
This will be another strong class. It's just not '11 or '12 in terms of sheer freak number of kids that we hit on. But I can't even say that yet because we have a very strong hit rate these days.
We have been selling Pt for 3 years and becoming part of the class that brings fsu back to elite status
We had a bad road loss and lost to uf but not that big of a deal
Won acc and win orange bowl we still lock down a top class
We are recruiting differently and we have a ton of depth now
Its news to me that our class is poor. I think as it stands its good, and with the way I expect us to close I think it will be fantastic.
Op insinuates our class won't be good. It's like many posters don't understand at all how recruiting goes.
We lost half our staff. We'll finish with a top 10 class which is great. And we're looking good for an all time class next year. PERSPECTIVE
Well crap, I liked the question. If we can't bounce around conspiracy theories, what fun is it?
No doubt these guys are professionals. They are also human beings. If I were recruiting for school A while knowning or being pretty sure I was going to be at school B next year, here's what 3 things would happen:
A) I would do my best to serve my current employer, school A
B) I would do my best not to mislead the recruits
C) There is a 0% chance that the knowledge that I was likely to be changing jobs would leave my behavior unaffected. I just couldn't be the same recruiter.
That said, the much bigger negative effect on recruiting would surely be what OTHER schools' coaches would say. They would say "Stoops won't be there," and Stoops would NOT be able to call direct bullcrap on that to the recruit's face.
Now, after all that, looks like we're going to have a very nice class. I know it looks a little less nice when UF is putting together what looks like a class for the ages, but it'll be good enough to beat UF at least half the time if our coaches do their job developing players.
The class is #14 on rivals and #12 on 247 right now. I believe most expect us to close pretty strong too. I would say we'll land in the 6-10 range on every network.
Well, Yes. Now that you mention it. To many it's a zero sum game. If we don't get as many 5* kids or cumulative rating points as the top school, we might was well fold our tent and walk back home through the woods.
Bobby Bowden, as well as other coaches have built strong, winning programs with medium rated recruits. It's how you coach 'em up that REALLY matters. The road to job-loss is littered with 5* busts. Jimbo ain't done too shabby either. Anyone mamember him sayin', "This year we look to add quality depth and fill positions of need." NO? Well, open your book and turn to page 246, where it was written by the Head Nolios of Two Hundred and Forty Seven ...............
Considering how many kids each one was responsible for(not many), I just don't see who you could come to that conclusion. Recruiting is crazy and will be even more so coming out of the dead period, much can change and rapidly. Revisit this question after Feb. 6th.
We will get our share of the "jimmies and joes"....signing day tv will be constantly mentioning "strong finish" and FSU in the same statement.
UF has a lot of takes that people I trust have shaken their heads despite the rankings. UF gets the benefit of the star ranking due to past history, like we used to, and Miami did. However, when I listed 6 kids in an FSU class under Bowden that are wastes, I see that currently in this UF class.
When you do that, it's self imposed probation, and you better hit.
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