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The world is changing and I wonder if we can't get similar results in South Florida with Dawsey or Haggins then with a known south florida recruiter. One we bring in the top South Florida High School Programs to town during the summer (Camps - Coached by HS Coaches) and FSU is on good terms with most of the coaches down there. Dawsey and Haggins both have interacted with those coaches numerous times throughout the years. Secondly, Jimbo recruited South Florida for LSU and will be able to recruit more south florida with the new rules. Lastly, if we can get approval from the adminstration, we are going to add two to three full time recruiters who were south florida high school coaches.
I really like the idea of Haggins going to south florida,
1. He's not leaving
2. Pruitt old area overlaps Odell
3. He's a top drawer recruiter and well-known commodity
Odell would probably leave every meetings with a lot of those HC "coaches" saying "I'm too old for this sh!t"
I'm just glad someone finally mentioned South Florida recruiting. When i first saw this topic, The scene from super troopers popped in my head. The one where the captain says he will pistol whip the next person to say shananigans. Not trying to attack OP. This is a valid topic. Just a bit over talked about as of late.
Isn't Odell ~45?
This post was edited by Lincoln Hawk 17 months ago
There is alot of talk around the subject but I haven't seen a post directly address the whys and hows.
Yeah i was just bustin a little. I like your posts. I keep forgetting im not as funny as i think.
These two have been instrumental in our success in the area North of Dade and Broward county to central Florida, from coast to coast, for years now. They've been a key cog in our "south Florida" recruiting, just not in Dade and Broward. Those were Coley's and Gran's territories.
So to answer your question, yes I am sure they could.
Below is a (very) rough sketch of where Odell and Dawsey focus.
This post has been edited 5 times, most recently by fsukum 17 months ago
From all the information I've gathered, you don't develop "South Florida" recruiters.
You either come from the area, have cred with the community, which was built for many-many years... or you are an outsider. And I've heard this from multiple people from the South Florida area.
Actions also seem to indicate this, as the best recruiter in the game with an unparalled record (Saban)... just hired Cristobal... Needless to say, he wasn't hired for his excellence in coaching.
The "we need SFLA talent" died the day um got their manhood taken in Georgia Dome tunnel.
Eddie Gran is from CA and only spent two years in Miami as a GA. Odell has spent more time there playing and coaching ha. Yes you can become a south florida recruiter you just have to have a different persona and understand how things are done down there. You have to know who to bond with and who the kids trust. Yes its a different place than most of the country but someone can devvelop relationships down there and be successful to a degree.
Either Gran or Fisher are from South Florida and Cristobal went to Columbus (As did I at the same time). Columbus is a world away from Central and Northwestern. My point is most Miami recruiters are developed not guys from those areas. Coley went to Miami High and grew up in Little Havana. Miami is a racially divide city so you don't grow up in Westchester and hangout on weekend in Liberty City. The city doesn't work like that traditionally.
If you think recruiting Miami is maze what do you think happens in DC. DC doesn't have the players Miami does but is the land of street agents, etc....
This post was edited by PVBNole 17 months ago
That's because you're taking message board rumors as fact. One person said it, people run with it, now it's accepted as fact.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by fsukum 17 months ago
I would buy the miami recruiter myth if the best south florida recruiter where a bunch of jamaican/haitian guys who grew up in liberty city but they are as different as they can be.
Bama has done pretty damn good in south Florida without and ties.
i just dont buy the whole you have to have ties to recruit there. does it happen im sure it does, but there is more to it than that. you just need relationships odell and dawsey could do well there in my opinion it isnt like we get our whole class from there personally i cant wait to get into the atl and dmv more
sorry double post
This post was edited by bomftdrum 17 months ago
If this true we should just hire Uncle Luke
I'll defer to my example, as I'm certain Saban could have done hella-better.
The fact that Cristobal is from Miami certainly adds to his attractiveness as coach but you make it out to be he is a former youth league coach that Saban hired solely due to his South Florida ties. Guy was a successful head coach and was considered for a job in the NFL by Rob Chudzinski I believe (another former Miami coach). He is extremely qualified to be Bama's Oline coach, his Miami background just makes his more appealing than other comparable candidates.
So you are only comparing your coach to maybe the best coach ever. So when you see your NBA team two guard miss a shot, do you say MJ would have hit that shot. Do you compare your pro team's QB to Joe Montana? Did you compare EJ to Charlie and Freeman to Dunn? I guess Christian Jones isn't that good because Derrick Brooks is better. Wow what a life of miser you live.
You're certain of that? Please, name a better offensive line coach with a better resume than Cristobal.
This post was edited by fsukum 17 months ago
I disagree that you "dont develop South Florida recruiters" that is exactly what happens. How many guys do you see that are not from there that are landing players, more than you would think. And to your Cristobal point. If it is as tight knit as "they" say it is down in Miami then why would "they" let him back in to recruit after pulling a Coley on da U?
Fact of the matter is since Jimbo has come on board me have focused more in Alabama than Miami area and that is where we are focusing. Also, we still will land a few kids here and there and that will keep us in the game.
Just because someone can recruit another area does not mean they will have success in south florida. I am not going to explain it. Those not down here and dealing with it every day just dont get it.
Can you help us understand some of it?
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