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Honestly the two are not even related
Conference started for athletic purposes not academic. You can be a grea school and still have great sports - Texas, USC, etc are examples
I've tried really hard to understand your POV, and to stay as objective as possible.
But the media deal is a huge part of the counter argument.. You can't just magically change it.
You asked earlier in the thread about how you were "reaching".
The quoted post is so much of a reach, that it could be included in a book of fairy tales.
I can fully support not making a hasty decision, though.
Well I will go back to reading instead of posting, afterall that B12 invite is imminient, right?
I don't know what that word means. It sounds like a cream my grandmother uses.
In all seriousness, I don't care what you do. I was just trying to offer a suggestion on how your posts sound to someone who doesn't know much about realignment, and has no strong feelings one way or another.
Some people support a conference move because they spend a lot of money on tickets and traveling to watch this university's sports teams. Especially football where it would be a lot better to buy tickets if we played more games like the Clemson and UF games
I just get tired of posting things that end up being right (and no I am not looking for some sort of board cred), and people get PO at me, because these ridiculous fantasies perpetuated by others do not come to fruition.
-I said FSU was not going to the B12 last yr when everyone said we were..that made me Pro-ACC somehow
-I said ND was joining the ACC...they did..and they will FT, its a progressive thing
-I am telling you now, FSU is NOT going to the B12...if I am wrong I am sure everyone will tell me
^^^^This is why I said its in our best interest to try and "fix" the ACC somehow, though there are other options on the table.
Oh and Louisville one of those new additions, just told Tennessee to kiss their azz....the ACC is finally making football moves, the question is, is it too late?
Notice GT is still in the conference.
UMD is not, and that was more a UMD problem, then a conference affiliation problem.
Maybe I should just post about the weather...or go back to reading...
You're probably one of those Pro-Low Pressure Front guys aren't you?
I wish you were right about ND, I don't see it. The money difference is the reason, at least from what I read, that Maryland left the ACC. And if FSU leaves it will be for the same reason.
This post was edited by Bacjak 19 months ago
Time will tell....I am in no rush.
I don't think I do. What I'm saying is that the situation in Tallahassee is likely very different than the situation at any other HBCU in the nation and the state might be better off changing things up a little bit.
This post was edited by tricknole 19 months ago
Any academic improvement is anecdotal at best. There doesn't appear to be any real proof of any sort of academic benefit. It seems to be more of a "rubbing elbows with" type of thing. It "sounds good." But those schools won't simply give you research money. There is no possible way they could improve your ability to attract and hire quality professors. They may rank you higher in university rankings magazines/websites but I'm sure ACC presidents typically do that already anyways. The Big Ten couldn't just vote us into the AAU, either. There are 50+ other universities outside the Big Ten that would have a say in it, too. And being in the AAU doesn't in and of itself make FSU a better university, either.
People have the AAU backwards. Being in the AAU doesn't make you better; It means you are already damn impressive (save for a few universities that were voted in decades ago but have since been surpassed). The AAU is the finish line, not the starting line. You have to invest in and improve your university's academic and research profile to that of the level of other AAU members before being considered for admission. You don't get invited and then worry about improving your academics later.
There is of course some collaboration amongst conference universities but oftentimes professors seek out who they feel are the best in their field regardless of university affiliation.
If the ACC gets $20M/year, which is a huge if, that still puts us well behind the SEC and Big Ten. Other schools also receive 3rd tier internet/radio revenue in the range of $5-12M/year. So mentioning our $6.6M/year isn't all that relevant when all of our competitors are receiving that, too.
You talk about that revenue figure before bowl payouts are added but fail to mention the Orange Bowl will pay the ACC less than the Sugar and Rose Bowl will pay the other 4 major conferences. You also fail to mention that the Orange Bowl will also be paying the Big Ten and SEC additional money on top of what they will be making in their champion bowls. You also fail to mention that the ACC is likely to send less teams to the playoffs than the other 4 major conferences, resulting in an increased revenue gap between FSU and teams in the 4 major conferences. You fail to mention that by retaining tier 3 tv football and basketball rights that FSU could increase the value of its current $6.6M/year third tier rights.
Like FSU taking over the pharmacy school, and FSU getting to spilt and do its own thing engineering wise? That would be great for us.
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