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the 98' team that lost to Tennessee
the 99' team that went unbeaten
6 TDs in three years. He wasn't a good college player. Pretty simple. You could argue that maybe the staff couldn't get the most of out of him but we're talking about production not potential.
But please by all means, get back to trashing the only QB that FSU has put in the first round.
That first round pick was maybe the worst 1st round pick I have ever seen
I just mentioned Coles, he clearly isn't the best #7 but neither is Ponder imo
Saying Coles wasn't a good college player is just ridiculous though, he played on a loaded WR core and was one of the best
Most guys don't put up great numbers at FSU, as evidence by not having a 1000 rusher in almost 2 decades
Oh and he scored 7 TD's brah
I'm inclined to give Ponder more time but I've only been watching football for a few decades. It's possible he actually improves as he gains experience and the team gets him some pro-caliber receivers. Just spitballing though.
The numbers argument is a copout. Our great players like PDub (and good ones like Quan and Dugans) got theirs. Coles just wasn't a difference maker. The reason why our current players don't put up numbers is because of baffling substitution patterns and the fact that Jimbo doesn't know what the hell he wants to do from one down to the next. But that's neither here nor there.
Lol, got me. Upvoted.
Warrick never even had 1000 yards catching, he would have had he not missed 2 games in 99' but still
Its not about numbers don't really mean much to me, Coles was a special player on a team loaded with talent
And he was a difference maker imo, when he # got called
His reverse against GT in 98's was incredible and him and Warrick had a nice reverse pass in the Duke game in J Ville back in 99'
Good stuff though, I can't think of who else wore #7
Me neither and this is a great thread especially since I'm still up, unwinding from work. Pretty crazy that more legit studs didn't have #7 since it's a favorable number. CJ can nail it down though with a great senior season.
Should Thompson get #4, or #23 ?
Coles was not a "star" in college. He caught 62 passes his entire career at FSU. Barely over 1,000 yards receiving.
Like him or not, Ponder was a three-year starter who passed for 6,800+ yards and 49 TDs. His impact while at FSU was much greater.
Jernigan is two more tfl's away from #8.
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