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Agreed. Morris loves to push the ball downfield. Johnson and Collins will be the states best backfield IMO
I'm more worried about the physical development of the players we have and Fisher's ability to be a general manager and not a middle manager when running our football organization.
Definitely not an unfair statement. Why physical development? Seems like our team has looked great last two years.
Just my opinion... definitely could be off-base but I think in order to get where we all want to be (National Championship caliber) our players need to be bigger and stronger. As Jeff Cameron says "eating at the Bama table".
When I watched Alabama in the NC game their players are on another level in terms of size and I think that's what we need to get to if we want to be a dominant program again.
Elle makes me sweat ... FSU football simply makes me question my emotional sanity.
This post was edited by GSNole 15 months ago
Bump to fight against all the negativity starting to come out.
Sure, I agree. Nothing really to sweat. We can survive a just-OK class. And even in a great overall recruiting year, I wouldn't expect us to do that great on the OL.
I don't agree on Trickett.
I am not exactly super excited, but the turnover is kinda fun. I see 3 or 4 losses this year, and I think that'll be typical for us going forward, with the occasional 2-loss season and ACC championship. And hey, that's OK. Kinda decided to be happy with that.
I think that's who we are now. I'm fine with it.
If I'm gonna worry over why we perhaps can't reach the elite, I just don't think recruiting woes are the reason. A team could become elite with one so-so class, and as we've shown (along with Texas), a team can fall a little short of elite even with multiple top 5 classes.
Yeah well if we go by that then you may as well leave the boards or refrain from posting, i don't post every negative thought that comes to me or whenever i am upset but you would see a lot of that, if what your happy with is the norm. I will be happy when we win the NC this next season or in the '14 season, i won't be satisfied with 2-4 loss seasons at all. ACC championships would be good yeah, beating our rivals and NCs that's all that matters.
Only one team can win the NC so in the near future i believe FSU has everything needed to be one of those teams and maybe we can have that ball rolling and capture a few like bama and UF which takes a ton of luck with it but i don't think FSU has reached its peak in Jimbo's era. I just hope James Wilder Jr can be a bruiser, Pender, Green and Freeman can play a part and that we have a true leader at QB that could take us over the top along with a dominate defense.
With a quest for a 2nd RB seeming like a desperate plea, Arshad Jackson and Davin Bellamy are gone, no Tunsil, god help us if Golson switches, etc we are just not going to love this class at all. And unless we get MT we may well not even like it much. But we're fine. We still have everything we need to win the ACC the next two years with good coaching and clutch QB play.
Wow, what a difference 48 hrs makes. It sure seems to me a lot of people are sweating this class now. Let's face it, we might not get the bodies we need at key positions. Maybe we can turn dts into olinemen and turn some of the 20 wr's into cbs or safetys. As far as winning the ACC next year, I'm not buying it. Clemson wins it imo...
We might as well give up football. Call up the recruits and tell them to forget it. We got Jimbo "I suck hard" Fisher. We play in the ACC. We can't coach or recruit. We haven't had a winning season, much less a conference championship or BCS bowl game in weeks--maybe months. Our players are weak and puny. Everyone else has a great team that's going to win every game.
I would hate to live my life as some of the miserable, feel sorry for myself SOBs around here. Bunch of GD Eeyores running around doom and gloom all the time.
"It's not the SEC conference vs. the ACC conference," "It's Florida State vs. Auburn." --Lamarcus Joyner
This site, like most internet message boards are full of pussies. Just the way it is.
This class will turn out fine.
We will lose Bellamy and gain Bower.
We will lose Golson (big loss!) and gain Bell
We will add Thomas, Coley, Gus Edwards, Coley, Bryant, and Ramsey.
Next year we will make up for our lackluster approach to the OL.
"I never knew I had a foot until I noticed it was on your neck"
We won't get Bower or Ramsey.
This. Part of it might be spin, but I actually do agree. We didn't have strong inherent ties with many guys in this class (e.g. many in-state kids definitely favored UF from the beginning) and we loaded up last class and thus cannot point to a thin depth chart, either.
We'll load up in 2014 hopefully.
Lmao, you being one of them.
There is such a thing as having to much optimism. Don't get angry when we don't get Bell, Ramsey, Thomas, Bryant, and Bower.
Despite everyones bitching on all four sites (247 Sports, Warchant, Noledigest and Tomahawknation), we have weathered hell and the "lost decade", but...WE MADE IT! Yeah, yeah, yeah... Jimbo has called some truly funky games, the conference we play in sucks, Trickett is mean as a snake to his charges, our class won't be top two this year and a couple of our players may have been hyped beyond their skill set, but... WE STAND... WE STAND AT THE EDGE OF HISTORY!... YET AGAIN. Ready to take on all comers.
The truth of the matter is we have lost 9 games under Fisher with NO TRUE SENIOR CLASS! With our first proven senior class in ten years and almost all new dynamic coaches, I'll be shocked if we lose 2 games. I'm not buying the "Clemson will beat us" or the "Florida will beat us" scenarios... and certainly not before they FIELD THEIR TEAMS! They've got some decent recruiters on those other staffs and those teams have a little bit of talent, but THEY ARE NOT FLORIDA STATE!
Ladies and gentleman, IT IS TIME TO RETURN TO "TALKING SHIT" MODE! WE ARE BACK. With this class, our depth is back and instead of crying about this problem and that problem with our football team, understand there will be no more missed practices due to weather, no more bench warmers who lacked talent, no more consistent zone defenses AND NO MORE TAKING PRISONERS. Begin to tell your friends and enemies who root for our rivals and any other teams, "BOW DOWN AND KNEEL IN THE PRESENCE OF FLORIDA STATE!"
Been watching college football for 35 years and I don't usually post on any of the boards(more entertaining to read your posts). However, I have learned to recognize one thing, YOU HAVE TO RECOGNIZE WHEN YOU HAVE THE REAL THING... A N D T H I S I S T H E R E A L T H I N G!
See you at the games.
When you fight with people who are stupid and/or crazy, they drag you down to their level and beat you with their experience.
I like your enthusiasm. UV for you.
Love your enthusiasm but the fact remains that we have NO DEPTH at OT. That is a huge hole considering Hart has struggled in the past and now we really have no true OT options on the roster.
True. We will get Bryant and Coley.
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