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Change in CFB?

  • The general assumption is that CFB has changed and that FSU will be left in the dust if we don't have as much as the next guy. Maybe that's what I don't get. What has changed to make this such a powerful driving force?

    I mean relative to 10, 20, and 30 years ago. For example, coaches salaries. FSU coaches get paid less than say Bama, but that has not changed. It was always that way. It will always be that way too, no matter what goes on with TV money.

    If money is so important, when are we going to see the effects? For example, Notre Dame. They have more money than just about anyone and according to Forbes are the 2nd most valuable team behind only Texas. That monetary advantage has meant squat so far, is that going to change soon?

    FSU has always made less money than UF. It never made a difference in the past....why and how will that make a difference in the future?

    Jadaway

  • Glad that you pointed this out. Seems we've always managed to do more with less...

    okal523

  • The monetary gap will get wider and wider, I think that's the concern. At some point however, you will have nothing to spend it on.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by fsukum on 5/17/2012 at 3:39 PM

    fsukum

  • The issue is not only about money. It is also about the proposed RPI formula that will be used to get into the playoff. Utilizing this formula it will be very difficult for any ACC team to get into the mix unless they are undefeated and even then it is not a given they would be awarded a spot.

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    ZZ1059 ●

  • How does RPI differ from strength of schedule? I don't understand that metric. I'm looking at a SOS track and the Big 12 is not much more impressive than the ACC in SOS. I am only going by a quick glance though. I don't have time to do a real study. Here is the link....

    College Football Power Ratings - College FB Team Strength of Schedule Power Rating

    College Football strength of schedule power rating page.

    www.teamrankings.com

    Jadaway

  • This site compares conference sos. ACC has stronger schedule in 6 of last 9 years than the Big 12. Now that Nebraska, A&M, and Missouri have left and more importantly the CCG is gone I would venture to say that if nothing happens between ACC and the Big 12 that the Big 12 will have a significantly weaker sos in years to come.

    The Big 12 is screwed on strength of schedule if FSU and Clemson stay.

    This post was edited by Jadaway on 5/17/2012 at 4:26 PM

    College Football Power Ratings - College FB SOS Power Rtg Conference Ratings on TeamRankings.com

    College Football strength of schedule power rating conference ratings page.

    www.teamrankings.com

    Jadaway

  • Jadaway said...

    This site compares conference sos. ACC has stronger schedule in 6 of last 9 years than the Big 12. Now that Nebraska, A&M, and Missouri have left and more importantly the CCG is gone I would venture to say that if nothing happens between ACC and the Big 12 that the Big 12 will have a significantly weaker sos in years to come.

    The Big 12 is screwed on strength of schedule if FSU and Clemson stay.

    That boggles my mind if true. The ACC has Virginia Tech as a constantly good school but not one other team has been consistent over the past decade. Not one.

    StPete_Nole72037 ●

  • Smaller budgets mean less money for recruiting ect. You also could lose coaches and other key staff if you are short money. And finally facilities will fall behind the teams that have more money to upgrade ect. This to me is what this is all about. Add to the fact that we are recruiting directly with the "haves" it make it even harder.

    tmsmith2 ●

  • Jadaway said...

    This site compares conference sos. ACC has stronger schedule in 6 of last 9 years than the Big 12. Now that Nebraska, A&M, and Missouri have left and more importantly the CCG is gone I would venture to say that if nothing happens between ACC and the Big 12 that the Big 12 will have a significantly weaker sos in years to come.

    The Big 12 is screwed on strength of schedule if FSU and Clemson stay.

    I personally haven't seen the RPI formula listed anywhere, but those who have say that only VT in 2007(?) would have made the proposed playoff from the ACC in the past decade. One team from the ACC in ten years?? That's a HUGE missed opportunity on extra revenue.

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    nolesfan8

  • Players and coaches win games. Last year FSU was #2 in recruiting rankings. The year before #1. TV money did not matter then. FSU made less TV money than 16 teams in the top 20 and out recruited them.

    Breaking ground on a new IPF and player dorms. We have arguably one of the top player rehab facility in the country and the weight room and locker room are amongst the nicest. ALL of this was done making less TV money than UF.

    Jimbo is one of 16 staffs in the whole 124 team FBS that stayed together. Bama and Auburn can't say that even with all their money.

    What changes? When?

    Jadaway

  • Good stuff Jadaway.
    I'm worried about our SOS no matter what conference we are in, if we keep on playing the wofford and UT Chattanooga's of the world.

    okal523

  • ZZ1059 said...

    The issue is not only about money. It is also about the proposed RPI formula that will be used to get into the playoff. Utilizing this formula it will be very difficult for any ACC team to get into the mix unless they are undefeated and even then it is not a given they would be awarded a spot.

    Win all the games on the schedule, we will get into a playoff. period.

    Snowl82 ●

  • If money doesn't matter....stop donating to the boosters.

    We aren't going to fall below the Big East and we are going to catch the big 4 conference in dollars.

    Booster donations mean nothing. Just stop giving. All FSU has to do is win.

    55Nole

  • tmsmith2 said...

    Smaller budgets mean less money for recruiting ect. You also could lose coaches and other key staff if you are short money. And finally facilities will fall behind the teams that have more money to upgrade ect. This to me is what this is all about. Add to the fact that we are recruiting directly with the "haves" it make it even harder.

    Georgia Tech spends more money on recruiting than any other team in the ACC....also, we are constantly upgrading.. Everything from an indoor practice facility to automated parking decks.. to a trap door & push button like device that Nick Saban has.... still GT constantly averages about 35th-40 when the recruiting rankings come out.
    In my opinion, recruiting is not FSU's problem,

    This post has been edited 4 times, most recently by Chris_topher on 5/17/2012 at 8:52 PM

    Conference Recruitment Expense Series: ACC «

    http://businessofcollegesports.com/2012/01/19/acc-recruiting-expenses-2/

    businessofcollegesports.com

    Chris_topher

  • Chris_topher said...

    Georgia Tech spends more money on recruiting than any other team in the ACC....also, we are constantly upgrading.. Everything from an indoor practice facility to automated parking decks.. to a trap door & push button like device that Nick Saban has.... still GT constantly averages about 35th-40 when the recruiting rankings come out. In my opinion, recruiting is not FSU's problem,

    FSU is also always spending money on facility upgrades, that's why they have arguably the best facilities in the nation. That is also why we need to leave this conference. The money is not good.

    fsukum

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    fsuis1

  • Is this serious, or am I missing the message board sarcasm? I hope it is the latter.

    HBCU93

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