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Cam Erving

  • Has he all but "won" the starting LT position??

    seminolelive84

  • I think that the starting lineup at all OL positions will be the most competitive in years on a week-in-week out basis. That stated, Cam looks like he holds the inside track on locking down the LT spot.

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  • gonoles2011 said...

    I think that the starting lineup at all OL positions will be the most competitive in years on a week-in-week out basis. That stated, Cam looks like he holds the inside track on locking down the LT spot.

    This is good for Cam Erving as a player. I was one who thought he performed well on D and should have stayed.

    He is either a great football player and has the ability to move and start at OLT or it may show how weak our depth of talent was for LT position. or both

    I cant wait to cheer him on every game this year he could be the difference maker for our team.

    This post was edited by LOUG on 4/30/2012 at 1:20 PM

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  • His advantage on the OL is almost unfair (and i mean that in a positive way). Most OL's are wired to think like an OL. Here's a guy wired with a defensive mind playing OL so his anticipation and defensive reads will be very effective.

    Jimbo is a thinker and he might have nailed it with Cam. If it works out we may see more of this.

    Go Noles and good job Cam!!

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  • DAKOTANOLE said...

    His advantage on the OL is almost unfair (and i mean that in a positive way). Most OL's are wired to think like an OL. Here's a guy wired with a defensive mind playing OL so his anticipation and defensive reads will be very effective.

    Jimbo is a thinker and he might have nailed it with Cam. If it works out we may see more of this.

    Go Noles and good job Cam!!

    I agree with your point but more importantly your pic with Bobby made me laugh

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  • Seems like he has and he did a good job during the spring game. Keep in mind Watson hasn't stepped foot on campus yet and he may suprise people.

    sdawgfather

  • sdawgfather said...

    Seems like he has and he did a good job during the spring game. Keep in mind Watson hasn't stepped foot on campus yet and he may suprise people.

    Or he may be a total flop.

    Leighty

  • Watson, Hart, Stork, Glauser, Erving will fight it out all summer.

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  • Cam was awesome in the Spring game. Glauser or Hart won't unseat him IMO so I think he is a 95% bet to win the LT job. If you can block Brandon Jenkins every down(and he did except for one when I believe the pocket was moving left and #4 snuck between Pettis and the next play the TE chipped Bjenk and Cam got caught snoozing and got off balance) you can block any college RDE.

    And he gives us a presence in the running game that we haven't seen in a long time.

    canolee

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  • MyNameIsMyName said...

    I agree with your point but more importantly your pic with Bobby made me laugh

    Seconded. Makes me laugh every time Dakota posts.

    mjohnson2484

  • DAKOTANOLE said...

    His advantage on the OL is almost unfair (and i mean that in a positive way). Most OL's are wired to think like an OL. Here's a guy wired with a defensive mind playing OL so his anticipation and defensive reads will be very effective.

    Jimbo is a thinker and he might have nailed it with Cam. If it works out we may see more of this.

    Go Noles and good job Cam!!

    Agree. Love a defensive linemen's mentality in an offensive lineman ... so long as they are able to learn to restrain some of their instincts. As Cam put it, keep the guns in the holsters longer.

    This was a fairly common strategy back in the dynasty years. For example, Tra Thomas was recruited (and started out) on the D-line. Others, off the top of my head, were Jeremy Brett, Char-ron Dorsey, Donald Heaven, Rian Cason and I think Antoine Mirambeau started out on the DL before moving to center.

    Miami may have started the trend in the late 80s or early 90s of recruiting DL with the intention of moving some to OL, recruiting DEs to be DTs, linebackers to be DEs, safeties to be LB and so forth. That was when speed was so much more important than size ... and was one of -- if not the -- primary reason for the FSU dynasty run.

    When you think back to some of our best players ... they were moved after they got to FSU. Reinard Wilson (LB to DE), Derrick Brooks (S to LB), Greg Spires (LB to DL), Peter Boulware (LB to DE), Julian Pittman (DE to DT), Tyrant Marion (LB to DE), Darnell Docket (DE to DT), Travis Johnson (believe he came in as a DE and was moved to DT).

    This post was edited by GSNole on 4/30/2012 at 6:59 PM

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  • canolee said...

    Cam was awesome in the Spring game. Glauser or Hart won't unseat him IMO so I think he is a 95% bet to win the LT job. If you can block Brandon Jenkins every down(and he did except for one when I believe the pocket was moving left and #4 snuck between Pettis and the next play the TE chipped Bjenk and Cam got caught snoozing and got off balance) you can block any college RDE.

    And he gives us a presence in the running game that we haven't seen in a long time.

    I'm not so sure about that. Jenkins is a great speed rusher, so that is very telling of Cam's quickness. But, the jury is still out on him as there is a familiarity at work. Also, what about a bull rush? I would be interested to see him match up with one who possesses tremendous strength and leverage, such as, Werner. No, he won't face many like Jenkins, but there are varying styles that he will have to face.

    HBCU93

  • swizz, you are correct sir. They even have different parents.

    93, remember, he was able to anchor at 3tech against 600lbs of double teams. I agree that style makes the fight and the more diverse a pass rusher is, the more difficult it is to block em. However, I was more worried about a speed rusher with Cam and Jenkins looked like he was shot out of a cannon more times than not, but Erving mirrored and stoned walled him on almost evey snap.

    canolee

  • GSNole said...

    Agree. Love a defensive linemen's mentality in an offensive lineman ... so long as they are able to learn to restrain some of their instincts. As Cam put it, keep the guns in the holsters longer.

    This was a fairly common strategy back in the dynasty years. For example, Tra Thomas was recruited (and started out) on the D-line. Others, off the top of my head, were Jeremy Brett, Char-ron Dorsey, Donald Heaven, Rian Cason and I think Antoine Mirambeau started out on the DL before moving to center.

    Miami may have started the trend in the late 80s or early 90s of recruiting DL with the intention of moving some to OL, recruiting DEs to be DTs, linebackers to be DEs, safeties to be LB and so forth. That was when speed was so much more important than size ... and was one of -- if not the -- primary reason for the FSU dynasty run.

    When you think back to some of our best players ... they were moved after they got to FSU. Reinard Wilson (LB to DE), Derrick Brooks (S to LB), Greg Spires (LB to DL), Peter Boulware (LB to DE), Julian Pittman (DE to DT), Tyrant Marion (LB to DE), Darnell Docket (DE to DT), Travis Johnson (believe he came in as a DE and was moved to DT).

    Geesus, that is some serious recollection. Upvote for you, man.

    This post was edited by WillyDees on 4/30/2012 at 8:15 PM

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  • Erving simply has way more upside than anyone we've had at LT in a long time. He is what we all dreamed Daron Rose was going to be in terms of frame, athleticism, and "talent'

    fsufsu

  • MyNameIsMyName said...

    I agree with your point but more importantly your pic with Bobby made me laugh

    LOL. Im assuming the pic with Bobby Bowden and not Bobby Hart? I bout crapped myself when he walked past me. First thought was dang he's short but I was more freaked that he gave me the time of day for a shot. Too bad he was looking at Ponder right by us but oh well. It was the night before the Gator Bowl. I get flack for the expression.

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  • DAKOTANOLE said...

    LOL. Im assuming the pic with Bobby Bowden and not Bobby Hart? I bout crapped myself when he walked past me. First thought was dang he's short but I was more freaked that he gave me the time of day for a shot. Too bad he was looking at Ponder right by us but oh well. It was the night before the Gator Bowl. I get flack for the expression.

    Not to mention that you look super happy and Bobby looks annoyed/confused. Classic!

    mjohnson2484

  • fsu, I was a big Rose guy out of HS. And I know you aren't comparing Rose to Cam, because Cam is just so much more explosive. And that is why he started at 3tech and was a very good one with a bright future.

    canolee

  • As good as Jenkins is, there are many times I watch him attempt a move in which he takes himself out of the play, or move back into the blocker. I agree with the anchoring of double teams, but there is a difference between anchoring, and catching. As DT, he fires into the OL. He is totally at a disadvantage as an OL in pass pro by having to receive a blow, while not giving in to the inherent nature of an aggressive DT and over extend. I am not inferring that he can't be a great OT in time, but to simply use one style to project success just seems a bit premature. I enjoy your breakdowns so this is not meant to attack your opinion, only to spark discussion.

    HBCU93

  • Cam has many advantages given that he has played in big time Div 1 games and knows the speed. Has the athletism to hold down LT and can learn the position from Coach Trick who often spends a great deal of time breaking bad habits taught to OL in High school.

    I like Watson but expect him to battle for RT with the rest and 2nd team behind Cam.

    bwhnoles

  • 93, excellent point. It is different. But I see the skills, the explosiveness, the quick powerful hands, the elite size, the aggresiveness and I'm not too worried bull rushers at this level. If he had to block Mario Williams then maybe.

    I think what will be interesting to see, is if he has trouble with holding calls if his hands get outside the shoulder pads in the heat of battle. He looked good in the spring game, but when the lights are on and the game means something in the standings and he reverts back to his defensive habits, coupled with the ACC officiating.

    Good post, bud.

    canolee

  • As for Jenkins, he can get a little crazy and fall in love with his spin move, but I think he is a very disciplined football player that plays the run first and is very assingment sound.

    canolee

  • Agreed. That spin move, or double fake spin, or whatever you call it, gets him enveloped by some on occassion. He has gotten a lot more disciplined, and his strength has increased at the point of attack. I just want to see Cam face an opponent who possesses brute strength to see how he reacts. Should be fun to watch his maturation.

    HBCU93

  • mjohnson2484 said...

    Not to mention that you look super happy and Bobby looks annoyed/confused. Classic!

    Probably true. I was extremely happy. The pic is one worth a thousand words (or laughs). The neat thing about it is he is exactly who you see and hear through the media.

    What can I say, I'm a die hard, enthusiastic Nole to the bone.

    This post was edited by DAKOTANOLE on 5/1/2012 at 4:21 PM

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