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Its all postering. Remember the SEC actually took a vote to not expand last year. 3 weeks later TAMU joined the SEC. Nothing official will happen till after the playoffs are finalized which should happen the end of June. The most powerful person at FSU doesnt come out and rip your current conference if you dont have a backup plan like Andy Haggard did.

Clemson and FSU increase ratings by adding potential big matchups, but FSU also brings in huge markets. Jacksonville, Orlando, Tampa, West Palm, Ft. Lauderdale, and Miami are all big. I am not sure where they rank in the top 25, but not only are these big markets, but they are football watching markets.

A&M was a great pickup for the SEC and I guess adding them meant the SEC needed to get a 14th. Missouri may bring in a top market, but it is not an overwhelming football watching area, and Missouri is not that great of a program. Missouri is going to be a .500 team in the SEC if they are lucky. That isn't exactly going to bring huge ratings.

There are no huge markets in the state of Alabama or Mississippi, and Louisiana has New Orleans and that is basically it, but the entire state is considered a football watching area. People in Alabama and Mississippi are going to watch all SEC games, same with Louisiana. People in the state of Missouri? Ehh...

FSU brings those markets to the Big 12 but the SEC already has those with UF. Missouri was more for adding off the field and adding old rivals to Arkie and A&M. The SEC sells itself in the south so Slive could careless about ratings it about being able to sell the SEC network in those markets.

I never said the SEC should have added FSU. I don't want to go to the SEC. I am just saying that FSU to the BigXII is going to add a lot. Mizzou to the SEC brings very little unless you were really that concerned about adding more AAU schools to the conference. If I am the SEC, I am not quite sure which school I would have added to get to 14. Mizzou may have been the best option out there. Assuming that Mizzou was worth it if it meant getting A&M then it was still a good move I suppose. However, lets not pretend like adding Mizzou was this genius move by Slive. It was a great move considering your footprint already existed in KY, TN, AR, LA, MS, AL, FL, GA, SC. So the only places to expand the footprint are: MO, NC, or VA. And considering UNC was not interested, I suppose it made Mizzou the next best option over VT.

adding Mizzou it like adding L'ville, GT or Pitt to the Big 12. All are average at footbal but bring large media market and pretty solid at basketball and non-rev sports.

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Find it funny a league that was left for dead because of schools (Nebraska, Texas A&M & Mizzou) leaving could be so arrogant.

Beggers can't be choosers.

I hope you realize that by adding Texas A&M, that the SEC's "TV market share" with regards to footprint, improved over 40% alone.

> 40%

TAMU is a big drawl in Houston and Dallas, two of Texas's biggest markets. Despite what "fans" think, Texas and Texas A&M are still the big monsters in the state and have the largest footprint, influence, donor bases and fan bases (U. of Texas of course leads between the two).

1. Bias is obvious when you refer to them as "little aggy". Kinda ruins any point you're trying to make.

2. So you lose 2 bigger names in Mizzou and Texas A&M, and add in WVU and TCU and you think you got a contract raise because of it? Who are you trying to kid there?

(No matter how much you hate, no chance TAMU + MIZZOU is not greater than TCU + WVU)

Texas, OU (and TAMU) were ALREADY making the 20 million that the conference is NOW making on their NEW deal. That's not a raise. The other teams got a raise, but couldn't one easily point out that EVERY CONTRACT ON THE PLANET is higher than before, due to economies of scale.

.... but hey, if you want to live in fantasyland being a "hater" instead.. I guess go for it.

IF you disagree, then let's go one step further - ESPN is already on the hook saying adding FSU won't cause a raise in the current contract... so does that mean FSU's worthless? Get my point yet?

Big XII not interested... Yeah, just let the domers show the slightest interest, and as others have said on here, the folks in that conference will start moving like one-legged folks in a log rolling contest...

Mizzou a "bigger " name, where exactly? it is not a big name in St Louis.

The big 12 lost one big name- NEBRASKA. No offense but the 2nd biggest name it lost is Colorado.

The Buffs have a bigger national viewing audience than A&M.

IMHO TCU and WVU are a push as compared to A&M and MIZZOU. TCU brings a better football program to the big 12 as compared to A&M and WVU is better than Mizzou. So the big 12 football has seen a big upgrade in quality with the recent switch.

TAMU was not making the 20 million b/c the revenue was based on tv appearances until you left. Mizzou was making 20 million.

What is funny if both Mizzou and the SEc are regretting their decisions to leave and take each other. Mizzou left because of perceived instability and now realizes the big 12 is stable. The SEC panicked and took a big 10 reject. Why? primarily because it could not figure out how to run a 13 team schedule. Look at the mensa club in Sandestin trying to figure out a 14 team schedule. No one is going to confuse them with Vulcans. Someone should have asked the big 10 how to run a 13 team schedule. I know, Mizzou was so great that all the public groveling in the world wasn't good enough for the big 10 to take mizzou.

After all, the Omaha market was too good to pass up.

It is like Slive (I think your school knows him as Silva) is playing checkers while Delaney and Scott are playing chess.

Now Slive has ensured the survival of the big 12 and it is going to add a team right in the middle of the SEc that has a big a national audience as anyone in the SEC which will mean the big 12 will have more power with the networks than the SEC. smart move. After all, your favorite burnt orange team has a much bigger audience than anyone in the SEC.

Next it will probably add ND in the next few years which will make the SEC a distant second in viewership. Brilliant.

Neinas must still be laughing

SEC deal before the Pac and B1G so of course it's third atp. The SEC teams were getting 18+ million before any of those deals were ever inplace. Once the new deal is announce the SEC again will be tops in money per team.

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